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		<title>Amisibastet at 21:56, 24 April 2009</title>
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		<updated>2009-04-24T21:56:45Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;==Storage Improvement==&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Is anyone doing studies on the pollution effects of storage improvement? I haven't picked up storage improvement 3 yet, but with 2 I'm warned that increasing the storage capabilities of my warehouse will cause some minor pollution. Has anyone tried to determine how much or how long or what exactly it effects? --[[User:Amisibastet|AmisiBastet]] 16:56, 24 April 2009 (EST)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Quit the accusations ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Quit the accusations ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Can we PLEASE quit all of the accusations, hasty bill-making, and so on? E! has been absolutely laden with drama over pollution. One person even declared this telling, &amp;quot;unplayable.&amp;quot; Get a grip, and approach the problem logically, please. Do mines cause pollution? We don't know. Is there any evidence that mines cause pollution? None has been presented yet. Historically, it's not the MINES that cause pollution - it's the smelting of the ore that causes pollution. It stands to reason that processes that give off smoke (firepits, charcoal ovens, smelting pots, Raeli ovens, etc.) could possibly cause pollution. -Unknown&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Can we PLEASE quit all of the accusations, hasty bill-making, and so on? E! has been absolutely laden with drama over pollution. One person even declared this telling, &amp;quot;unplayable.&amp;quot; Get a grip, and approach the problem logically, please. Do mines cause pollution? We don't know. Is there any evidence that mines cause pollution? None has been presented yet. Historically, it's not the MINES that cause pollution - it's the smelting of the ore that causes pollution. It stands to reason that processes that give off smoke (firepits, charcoal ovens, smelting pots, Raeli ovens, etc.) could possibly cause pollution. -Unknown&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Amisibastet</name></author>
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		<title>Amisibastet at 01:48, 22 January 2009</title>
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		<updated>2009-01-22T01:48:11Z</updated>

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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l10&quot; &gt;Line 10:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Flax growth and... ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Flax growth and... ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The suggestion is that flax growth is affected by being over an ore vein - there is no mention of whether or not mines are located on that vein.  If there are not and it is simply the presence of ore causing flax growing issues, then surely we have an aide to dowsing in areas where there are no other polluting factors... Duncan 30 December 2008&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The suggestion is that flax growth is affected by being over an ore vein - there is no mention of whether or not mines are located on that vein.  If there are not and it is simply the presence of ore causing flax growing issues, then surely we have an aide to dowsing in areas where there are no other polluting factors... Duncan 30 December 2008&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;== Clinker ==&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;In t3, clinker produced pollution. But not where it got dumped. It would produce pollution many coordinates south east of where it was dumped.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Here's the T3 page on it. http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale3/Pollution&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Amisibastet</name></author>
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		<title>Nipaeri: corrected formatting - each thread should have a subject!</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;corrected formatting - each thread should have a subject!&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot; &gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Can we PLEASE quit all of the accusations, hasty bill-making, and so on? E! has been absolutely laden with drama over pollution. One person even declared this telling, &amp;quot;unplayable.&amp;quot; Get a grip, and approach the problem logically, please. Do mines cause pollution? We don't know. Is there any evidence that mines cause pollution? None has been presented yet. Historically, it's not the MINES that cause pollution - it's the smelting of the ore that causes pollution. It stands to reason that processes that give off smoke (firepits, charcoal ovens, smelting pots, Raeli ovens, etc.) could possibly cause pollution.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;== Quit the accusations ==&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Can we PLEASE quit all of the accusations, hasty bill-making, and so on? E! has been absolutely laden with drama over pollution. One person even declared this telling, &amp;quot;unplayable.&amp;quot; Get a grip, and approach the problem logically, please. Do mines cause pollution? We don't know. Is there any evidence that mines cause pollution? None has been presented yet. Historically, it's not the MINES that cause pollution - it's the smelting of the ore that causes pollution. It stands to reason that processes that give off smoke (firepits, charcoal ovens, smelting pots, Raeli ovens, etc.) could possibly cause pollution. &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;-Unknown&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;== Don't point fingers ==&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;For the people pointing fingers - you really need to test this before you start snarling at your neighbors. Take something that you think causes pollution, and isolate it - take it far out in the desert, where there's nothing else nearby, and do it. After a few days, you should have your answer - either it does pollute, or it doesn't. Going off half-cocked because of the state of areas around Chariot Stops does not help in any way. --[[User:Nekojin|Nekojin]] 12:42, 22 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;For the people pointing fingers - you really need to test this before you start snarling at your neighbors. Take something that you think causes pollution, and isolate it - take it far out in the desert, where there's nothing else nearby, and do it. After a few days, you should have your answer - either it does pollute, or it doesn't. Going off half-cocked because of the state of areas around Chariot Stops does not help in any way. --[[User:Nekojin|Nekojin]] 12:42, 22 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;== I think Mines... ==&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Mines appear to cause pollution, even without smelting.  80/100 tadpoles are dying in an area with one mine and no other facilities within 100 coords --[[User:Zerda|Zerda]] 19:49, 22 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Mines appear to cause pollution, even without smelting.  80/100 tadpoles are dying in an area with one mine and no other facilities within 100 coords --[[User:Zerda|Zerda]] 19:49, 22 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;== Flax growth and... ==&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The suggestion is that flax growth is affected by being over an ore vein - there is no mention of whether or not mines are located on that vein.  If there are not and it is simply the presence of ore causing flax growing issues, then surely we have an aide to dowsing in areas where there are no other polluting factors... Duncan 30 December 2008&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The suggestion is that flax growth is affected by being over an ore vein - there is no mention of whether or not mines are located on that vein.  If there are not and it is simply the presence of ore causing flax growing issues, then surely we have an aide to dowsing in areas where there are no other polluting factors... Duncan 30 December 2008&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>DuncanOfMycenae at 17:51, 30 December 2008</title>
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		<updated>2008-12-30T17:51:15Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Mines appear to cause pollution, even without smelting.  80/100 tadpoles are dying in an area with one mine and no other facilities within 100 coords --[[User:Zerda|Zerda]] 19:49, 22 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Mines appear to cause pollution, even without smelting.  80/100 tadpoles are dying in an area with one mine and no other facilities within 100 coords --[[User:Zerda|Zerda]] 19:49, 22 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;The suggestion is that flax growth is affected by being over an ore vein - there is no mention of whether or not mines are located on that vein.  If there are not and it is simply the presence of ore causing flax growing issues, then surely we have an aide to dowsing in areas where there are no other polluting factors... Duncan 30 December 2008&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Zerda at 00:49, 23 December 2008</title>
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		<updated>2008-12-23T00:49:24Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;For the people pointing fingers - you really need to test this before you start snarling at your neighbors. Take something that you think causes pollution, and isolate it - take it far out in the desert, where there's nothing else nearby, and do it. After a few days, you should have your answer - either it does pollute, or it doesn't. Going off half-cocked because of the state of areas around Chariot Stops does not help in any way. --[[User:Nekojin|Nekojin]] 12:42, 22 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;For the people pointing fingers - you really need to test this before you start snarling at your neighbors. Take something that you think causes pollution, and isolate it - take it far out in the desert, where there's nothing else nearby, and do it. After a few days, you should have your answer - either it does pollute, or it doesn't. Going off half-cocked because of the state of areas around Chariot Stops does not help in any way. --[[User:Nekojin|Nekojin]] 12:42, 22 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Mines appear to cause pollution, even without smelting.  80/100 tadpoles are dying in an area with one mine and no other facilities within 100 coords --[[User:Zerda|Zerda]] 19:49, 22 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Zerda</name></author>
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		<title>Nekojin: New page: Can we PLEASE quit all of the accusations, hasty bill-making, and so on? E! has been absolutely laden with drama over pollution. One person even declared this telling, &quot;unplayable.&quot; Get a ...</title>
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		<updated>2008-12-22T17:42:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;New page: Can we PLEASE quit all of the accusations, hasty bill-making, and so on? E! has been absolutely laden with drama over pollution. One person even declared this telling, &amp;quot;unplayable.&amp;quot; Get a ...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Can we PLEASE quit all of the accusations, hasty bill-making, and so on? E! has been absolutely laden with drama over pollution. One person even declared this telling, &amp;quot;unplayable.&amp;quot; Get a grip, and approach the problem logically, please. Do mines cause pollution? We don't know. Is there any evidence that mines cause pollution? None has been presented yet. Historically, it's not the MINES that cause pollution - it's the smelting of the ore that causes pollution. It stands to reason that processes that give off smoke (firepits, charcoal ovens, smelting pots, Raeli ovens, etc.) could possibly cause pollution.&lt;br /&gt;
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For the people pointing fingers - you really need to test this before you start snarling at your neighbors. Take something that you think causes pollution, and isolate it - take it far out in the desert, where there's nothing else nearby, and do it. After a few days, you should have your answer - either it does pollute, or it doesn't. Going off half-cocked because of the state of areas around Chariot Stops does not help in any way. --[[User:Nekojin|Nekojin]] 12:42, 22 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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