Talk:Shabbat Ab Desert Obelisk Queue - Revision history

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Aperio at 10:31, 31 December 2008

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Nemoder at 18:07, 30 December 2008

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Hepnezr at 08:18, 29 December 2008

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Hepnezr at 08:17, 29 December 2008

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Kfir at 21:23, 27 December 2008

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Aperio at 09:27, 23 December 2008

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Nemoder at 07:27, 23 December 2008

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Shadeking at 03:52, 23 December 2008

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Trillian at 03:33, 23 December 2008

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	After Emym's pass, there were 5-6 people unready to build. I chatted the first who was offline and left a note. I then informed the first 'ready' person, Diania, that The Obelisk Guild would respect her build as we weren't prepared to assert a better system at this time. I have bumped those people down a spot in the queue to reflect this. --[[User:Aperio\|Aperio]] 05:31, 31 December 2008 (EST)		After Emym's pass, there were 5-6 people unready to build. I chatted the first who was offline and left a note. I then informed the first 'ready' person, Diania, that The Obelisk Guild would respect her build as we weren't prepared to assert a better system at this time. I have bumped those people down a spot in the queue to reflect this. --[[User:Aperio\|Aperio]] 05:31, 31 December 2008 (EST)
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		+	I'd just like to throw another idea into the arena for your consideration.
		+	Instead of random selection or first come first served how about a sealed-bid auction for places. A list is drawn up, of scarce or hard to produce resources which are needed for research and/or public facilities. Each type of resource could be given a points value. Players have 1 week to donate as many resources as they are willing/able then the top 20 point scores get the next 20 places in the queue. The donated resources get allocated to research and public facilities. Everyone has a fair chance of competing for their place in the queue. A win-win situation. --[[User:Arguin\|Arguin]] 07 January 2009 04.27(GMT)

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	I agree Hepnezr, also I wouldn't bother with randomizing the queue until we get to the point where there are say 20 people that all have enough mats to build one. -[[User:Nemoder\|Nemoder]] 30 Dec 2008		I agree Hepnezr, also I wouldn't bother with randomizing the queue until we get to the point where there are say 20 people that all have enough mats to build one. -[[User:Nemoder\|Nemoder]] 30 Dec 2008
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		+	After Emym's pass, there were 5-6 people unready to build. I chatted the first who was offline and left a note. I then informed the first 'ready' person, Diania, that The Obelisk Guild would respect her build as we weren't prepared to assert a better system at this time. I have bumped those people down a spot in the queue to reflect this. --[[User:Aperio\|Aperio]] 05:31, 31 December 2008 (EST)

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	In order to keep the queue from stalling: if the person at the head of the queue is not ready to build within 4 hours when the previous person passes, the next person in the queue that is ready to build swaps places. This will keep passes to a maximum and would encourage people in the queue from getting ready early. --[[User:Hepnezr\|Hepnezr]] 10:14 GMT+2 29 Dec 2009		In order to keep the queue from stalling: if the person at the head of the queue is not ready to build within 4 hours when the previous person passes, the next person in the queue that is ready to build swaps places. This will keep passes to a maximum and would encourage people in the queue from getting ready early. --[[User:Hepnezr\|Hepnezr]] 10:14 GMT+2 29 Dec 2009
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		+	I agree Hepnezr, also I wouldn't bother with randomizing the queue until we get to the point where there are say 20 people that all have enough mats to build one. -[[User:Nemoder\|Nemoder]] 30 Dec 2008

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	Why not something like this: Take people in the order they joined the guild and divide them up into batches of 10. Each group of 10 then calculates and divides up the resources needed to build all 10 of their respective obelisks. The first group of 10 gets started building ASAP and the other groups collect materials. If someone jumps the build, the respective group pulls together to get back in front. Later groups will have more work to do, but that will be true in any case and thus seems perfectly fair and equitable to me. The small groups keep it manageable and help develop community which can potentially be helpful on later tests. --[[User:Kfir\|Kfir]] 16:22 EST 27 December 2008		Why not something like this: Take people in the order they joined the guild and divide them up into batches of 10. Each group of 10 then calculates and divides up the resources needed to build all 10 of their respective obelisks. The first group of 10 gets started building ASAP and the other groups collect materials. If someone jumps the build, the respective group pulls together to get back in front. Later groups will have more work to do, but that will be true in any case and thus seems perfectly fair and equitable to me. The small groups keep it manageable and help develop community which can potentially be helpful on later tests. --[[User:Kfir\|Kfir]] 16:22 EST 27 December 2008

−	In order to keep the queue from stalling: if the person at the head of the queue is not ready to build within 4 hours when the previous person passes, the next person in the queue that is ready to build swaps places. This will keep passes to a maximum and would encourage people in the queue from getting ready early. --[[User:Hepnezr]] 10:14 GMT+2 29 Dec 2009	+	In order to keep the queue from stalling: if the person at the head of the queue is not ready to build within 4 hours when the previous person passes, the next person in the queue that is ready to build swaps places. This will keep passes to a maximum and would encourage people in the queue from getting ready early. --[[User:Hepnezr\|Hepnezr]] 10:14 GMT+2 29 Dec 2009

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	Why not something like this: Take people in the order they joined the guild and divide them up into batches of 10. Each group of 10 then calculates and divides up the resources needed to build all 10 of their respective obelisks. The first group of 10 gets started building ASAP and the other groups collect materials. If someone jumps the build, the respective group pulls together to get back in front. Later groups will have more work to do, but that will be true in any case and thus seems perfectly fair and equitable to me. The small groups keep it manageable and help develop community which can potentially be helpful on later tests. --[[User:Kfir\|Kfir]] 16:22 EST 27 December 2008		Why not something like this: Take people in the order they joined the guild and divide them up into batches of 10. Each group of 10 then calculates and divides up the resources needed to build all 10 of their respective obelisks. The first group of 10 gets started building ASAP and the other groups collect materials. If someone jumps the build, the respective group pulls together to get back in front. Later groups will have more work to do, but that will be true in any case and thus seems perfectly fair and equitable to me. The small groups keep it manageable and help develop community which can potentially be helpful on later tests. --[[User:Kfir\|Kfir]] 16:22 EST 27 December 2008
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		+	In order to keep the queue from stalling: if the person at the head of the queue is not ready to build within 4 hours when the previous person passes, the next person in the queue that is ready to build swaps places. This will keep passes to a maximum and would encourage people in the queue from getting ready early. --[[User:Hepnezr]] 10:14 GMT+2 29 Dec 2009

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	You don't need 'everyone' to provide a number. Just enough chaos that people can't gimmick the system. --[[User:Aperio\|Aperio]] 04:27, 23 December 2008 (EST)		You don't need 'everyone' to provide a number. Just enough chaos that people can't gimmick the system. --[[User:Aperio\|Aperio]] 04:27, 23 December 2008 (EST)
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		+	Why not something like this: Take people in the order they joined the guild and divide them up into batches of 10. Each group of 10 then calculates and divides up the resources needed to build all 10 of their respective obelisks. The first group of 10 gets started building ASAP and the other groups collect materials. If someone jumps the build, the respective group pulls together to get back in front. Later groups will have more work to do, but that will be true in any case and thus seems perfectly fair and equitable to me. The small groups keep it manageable and help develop community which can potentially be helpful on later tests. --[[User:Kfir\|Kfir]] 16:22 EST 27 December 2008

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	Trying to get everyone in the list online at once to shout numbers might be difficult. Here's my idea for an in-game randomizer:		Trying to get everyone in the list online at once to shout numbers might be difficult. Here's my idea for an in-game randomizer:
	Build a flimsy brick rack for each person on the list then have somebody make a round of bricks and repeat until one breaks. If more than one break down in the first round then start over with just those. Anyone could come to witness to make sure it was done fairly. -[[User:Nemoder\|Nemoder]]		Build a flimsy brick rack for each person on the list then have somebody make a round of bricks and repeat until one breaks. If more than one break down in the first round then start over with just those. Anyone could come to witness to make sure it was done fairly. -[[User:Nemoder\|Nemoder]]
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		+	You don't need 'everyone' to provide a number. Just enough chaos that people can't gimmick the system. --[[User:Aperio\|Aperio]] 04:27, 23 December 2008 (EST)

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 Since the game does not have an in-game randomizer, I would propose to use a hashing system.  Break people into groups of 10, have everybody pick numbers (1-10) QUICKLY, add the numbers together, divide by 10 and whatever the remainder is the number you use to determine the winner in each pool.  Then pick your pool the same way.  Basically. - --[[User:Aperio|Aperio]] 12:18, 22 December 2008 (EST)
 I can't get the main page to edit correctly to remove my name from the list- I have asked someone to remove it for me so the lsit can continue - this is just for reference so you know it was by my request my name was removed--[[User:Trillian|Trillian]] 22:33, 22 December 2008 (EST)
 I editted out Trillian's name and my own. To the one who ends up passing w/ the first obelisk, good luck, and congratulations. [[User:shadeking:shadeking]] 22:51, 22 December 2008 (EST)

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	I can't get the main page to edit correctly to remove my name from the list- I have asked someone to remove it for me so the lsit can continue - this is just for reference so you know it was by my request my name was removed--[[User:Trillian\|Trillian]] 22:33, 22 December 2008 (EST)		I can't get the main page to edit correctly to remove my name from the list- I have asked someone to remove it for me so the lsit can continue - this is just for reference so you know it was by my request my name was removed--[[User:Trillian\|Trillian]] 22:33, 22 December 2008 (EST)
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		+	I editted out Trillian's name and my own. To the one who ends up passing w/ the first obelisk, good luck, and congratulations. [[User:shadeking:shadeking]] 22:51, 22 December 2008 (EST)

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	Since the game does not have an in-game randomizer, I would propose to use a hashing system. Break people into groups of 10, have everybody pick numbers (1-10) QUICKLY, add the numbers together, divide by 10 and whatever the remainder is the number you use to determine the winner in each pool. Then pick your pool the same way. Basically. - --[[User:Aperio\|Aperio]] 12:18, 22 December 2008 (EST)		Since the game does not have an in-game randomizer, I would propose to use a hashing system. Break people into groups of 10, have everybody pick numbers (1-10) QUICKLY, add the numbers together, divide by 10 and whatever the remainder is the number you use to determine the winner in each pool. Then pick your pool the same way. Basically. - --[[User:Aperio\|Aperio]] 12:18, 22 December 2008 (EST)
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		+	I can't get the main page to edit correctly to remove my name from the list- I have asked someone to remove it for me so the lsit can continue - this is just for reference so you know it was by my request my name was removed--[[User:Trillian\|Trillian]] 22:33, 22 December 2008 (EST)