User:Obol/GlassClass - Revision history

Obol at 21:07, 13 November 2011

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Obol: /* Thermometers */

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Thermometers

Obol at 22:58, 24 January 2009

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Obol at 22:01, 24 January 2009

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Obol at 21:58, 24 January 2009

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 **u
-Making a Wine Glass
+=== Making a Wine Glass ===
+Requires 1 fine glass rod to make.<BR>
-Requires 1 fine glass rod to make.
+<BR>
-Move the rod in 1 click and let it heat up to yellow
+*Move the rod in 1 click and let it heat up to yellow<BR>
-Blow once and move it in one more click
+*Blow once and move it in one more click<BR>
-When it gets yellow, blow twice
+*When it gets yellow, blow twice<BR>
-Push the rod all in
+*Push the rod all in<BR>
-Heat it up yellow
+*Heat it up yellow<BR>
-Pull the rod out and heat up 4 more sections
+*Pull the rod out and heat up 4 more sections<BR>
-Move the rod back in a bit to keep the center 3 sections yellow
+*Move the rod back in a bit to keep the center 3 sections yellow<BR>
-Push the rod all the way into the structure and blow 5 times
+*Push the rod all the way into the structure and blow 5 times<BR>
+<BR>
 When performing the initial heating, it's important to keep the glass spinning at a fairly constant rate. I've found that about two turns per heat tick (~1 sec) seems to work fairly well.

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		+	Making a Wine Glass
		+
		+	Requires 1 fine glass rod to make.
		+	Move the rod in 1 click and let it heat up to yellow
		+	Blow once and move it in one more click
		+	When it gets yellow, blow twice
		+	Push the rod all in
		+	Heat it up yellow
		+	Pull the rod out and heat up 4 more sections
		+	Move the rod back in a bit to keep the center 3 sections yellow
		+	Push the rod all the way into the structure and blow 5 times
		+
		+
		+	When performing the initial heating, it's important to keep the glass spinning at a fairly constant rate. I've found that about two turns per heat tick (~1 sec) seems to work fairly well.
		+
		+	First you want to form the base. Move the rod in 1 click and let it heat up to yellow. Blow once and move it in one more click. When it gets yellow, blow twice. That's it for the base.
		+
		+	Immediately push the rod in so that the other end (what will become the mouth of the glass) is just inside the grey hotspot. Heat it up yellow and then proceed to pull the rod out and heat up 4 more sections of the rod to yellow. Move the rod back in a bit to keep the center 3 sections yellow and let the section on either side fade more to red (the mouth end will likely have already done so). Then push the rod all the way into the structure and blow 5 times.
		+
		+	That's it for blowing. You now rotate the glass so that anything that has sagged is now above the axis of rotation. Let it sit there until gravity pulls it closer to where it needs to be. During this stage I find it handy to check the quality frequently as I rotate it or let sag. Often you will see the quality go up as the piece droops closer to the goal and then go down as it droops past. Just rotate it above again and that should help. When you are satisfied with the quality (or time has run out), unload your beautiful new wine glass and prepare to experience faster Oenology point gain.
		+
		+	Don't be afraid to unload the piece before the full 60 second work time has expired. I've seen the quality of pieces drop dramatically.

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      * Soda: 1 Lime, 2 Soda, 10 Sand per glass level
-     * Normal: Lime, Potash, Sand
+     * Normal: 1 Lime, 2 Potash, 10 Sand
      * Jewel: Lime, Potash, White Sand

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 = Glory Hole =
 === Thermometers ===
-Use front heavy heating. Ram the thermo into the hole as fast as you can (hammering down the "a" key). Once it's all the way in, withdraw the pipe 7 steps "sssssss". At this point rotate half a turn - I wait until the pipe sags and then hit "n" 7 times fast to straighten the pipe out. Wait several ticks, the section of the pipe just shy of the end will get yellow, I usually rotate a half turn 2 more times while waiting to keep the pipe reaonably straight (7x "n"). Blow 4 times "bbbb". Rotate a half turn if necessary to center the bulb. Hit "q" to verify quality then unload. If quality isn't high enough, the worst you will have to do is rotate the pipe and let the bulb sag into place.
+* Matk's approch
-Summary:<BR>
+* Short Cut:
-hammering down the "a" key<BR>
+**hammering down the "a" key
-sssssss(7)<BR>
+**sssssss(7)
-nnnnnnn(7)<BR>
+**nnnnnnn(7)
-bbbb(4)<BR>
+**bbbb(4)
-q<BR>
+**q
-nn<BR>
+**nn
-u<BR>
+**u

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 Each type require a different set of material;
-     * Soda: Lime, Soda, Sand
+     * Soda: 1 Lime, 2 Soda, 10 Sand per glass level
      * Normal: Lime, Potash, Sand
      * Jewel: Lime, Potash, White Sand

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 Now with all that said, lets make some glassware. I suggest you learn by making Sheet glass, since you need to have level 7 sheet glass in order to prevent breakage. While making sheet glass one of 3 things will happen,
-. it breaks
+. It breaks
-. it breaks and you gain a level
+. It breaks and you gain a level
-. you successfully make sheet glass.
+. You successfully make sheet glass.
 So while learning you actually want it to break so you have a chance to gain a level.
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 There are 3 main steps to working a bench.
-. warm up
+. Warm up
-. making glass
+. Making glass
-. adding material.
+. Adding material.
-During warm up you may actually want large spikes to get it the temperature up quickly. To make glass you need to be between 1600 degrees and 2400 degrees, anything below or over that you will lose the item or not be able to make an item. For warm up and adding material only, I add 2 cc to get the bench going and wait about 3 rises then add another 2 cc. Wait for the spike and add 2 more cc. Continue to add cc after the spike until the temperature is over 2000 degrees. I suggest you wait to see if there will be another spike before starting to make a glass item. If the temperature drops, then you are back in control.
+During warm up you may actually want large spikes to get the temperature up quickly. To make glass you need to be between 1600 degrees and 2400 degrees, anything below or over that you will lose the item or not be able to make an item. For warm up and adding material only, I add 2 cc to get the bench going and wait about 3 rises then add another 2 cc. Wait for the spike and add 2 more cc. Continue to add cc after the spike until the temperature is over 2000 degrees. I suggest you wait to see if there will be another spike before starting to make a glass item. If the temperature drops, then you are back in control.
 Now we are ready to make some glass items. Once the bench's temperature drops it will continue to drop unless you add 2 cc. To save on the amount of cc used, always add 2 cc when the temperature drops, this will start the 6 step rise sequence. So the cycle is 6 rises, then a drop, add 2 cc, 6 rises, then a drop, add 2 cc, continue this until the temperature gets down to less then 1800 decrees and on the 6th rise add 2 cc to get the small spike. Once you get good at the benches you will be able to drop a few times then spike the temperature back up to about 2200 degrees. Always watch for the glass item to finish and start making another one immediately. Each item has a different length of time for it to finish.
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 Summary:<BR>
 hammering down the "a" key<BR>
-sssssss<BR>
+sssssss(7)<BR>
-nnnnnnn<BR>
+nnnnnnn(7)<BR>
-bbbb<BR>
+bbbb(4)<BR>
 q<BR>
 nn<BR>
 u<BR>

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-== Class Glasses ==
+= Glazier's Bench =
 There are 3 kinds of glass, Soda, Normal and Jewel. We have a few benches of each type so you don't have to empty the glass and start over, actually you should never empty the glass from the benches. You will probably use more normal glass then the other two.
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 Congratulations!! By now you should have level 7 sheet glass.
+= Glory Hole =
-= Thermometers =
+=== Thermometers ===
 Use front heavy heating. Ram the thermo into the hole as fast as you can (hammering down the "a" key). Once it's all the way in, withdraw the pipe 7 steps "sssssss". At this point rotate half a turn - I wait until the pipe sags and then hit "n" 7 times fast to straighten the pipe out. Wait several ticks, the section of the pipe just shy of the end will get yellow, I usually rotate a half turn 2 more times while waiting to keep the pipe reaonably straight (7x "n"). Blow 4 times "bbbb". Rotate a half turn if necessary to center the bulb. Hit "q" to verify quality then unload. If quality isn't high enough, the worst you will have to do is rotate the pipe and let the bulb sag into place.

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	== Class Glasses ==		== Class Glasses ==
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		+	=Glazier's Bench=
		+
		+	There are 3 kinds of glass, Soda, Normal and Jewel. We have a few benches of each type so you don't have to empty the glass and start over, actually you should never empty the glass from the benches. You will probably use more normal glass then the other two.
		+
		+	Each type require a different set of material;
		+
		+	* Soda: Lime, Soda, Sand
		+	* Normal: Lime, Potash, Sand
		+	* Jewel: Lime, Potash, White Sand
		+
		+	All benches only hold 50 glass and you can not make glass if it goes below 20, so you can only make 30 glass items before you have to add material again.
		+
		+	Simply put, the benches have cycles. When you add cc the temperature will rise 6 times then it will drop if no more cc is added. Each bench differs in the amount of temperature that it rises and falls and the time between rises. The important aspect of the bench is to stay in control of the temperature. In order to stay in control you need to add cc at the appropriate time to increase the temperature and let it drop at the appropriate time to decrease the temperature. Adding cc will do one of two things, it will start the 6 step rise sequence or it will spike out of control, depending on when you add the cc, you want to avoid spikes unless thats what you want it to do.
		+
		+	I will attempt to teach you how to stay in control of the temperature.
		+	Grab about 100 cc, should be enough to make several glass items once you get good at controlling the benches. If you add 2 cc to the bench you will notice that it will rise about 10 degrees 6 times, each rise takes about 10 secs(each bench differs in these amounts). I rarely add more then 2 cc at any time. If you do not add any more cc the temperature will drop at the end of the 6th rise, the total amount of the 6 rises (about 60 - 80 degrees) is less then the amount it will drop (about 200 – 300 degrees) So, as u can see, you will be losing ground fast. In order to prevent the drop you will need to add 2 cc on the 6th rise. If you add cc before the 6th rise, the temperature will spike an undetermined amount at an undetermined time, essentially out of control. Adding 2 cc on the 6th rise will cause a small spike of about 200 degrees. This is very manageable. Instead of counting each rise, which I find difficult, I count in my head to about 10 and if it rises then it is not the 6th rise, if it doesn't rise, then it is the 6th rise and I add 2 cc, then wait for the small spike in temperature. Again each bench is different, I have one bench that rises about 8 degrees every 8 secs, another that rises about 10 degrees every 12 secs, get to know your bench.
		+
		+	Now with all that said, lets make some glassware. I suggest you learn by making Sheet glass, since you need to have level 7 sheet glass in order to prevent breakage. While making sheet glass one of 3 things will happen,
		+
		+	1. it breaks
		+	2. it breaks and you gain a level
		+	3. you successfully make sheet glass.
		+
		+	So while learning you actually want it to break so you have a chance to gain a level.
		+
		+	There are 3 main steps to working a bench.
		+
		+	1. warm up
		+	2. making glass
		+	3. adding material.
		+
		+	During warm up you may actually want large spikes to get it the temperature up quickly. To make glass you need to be between 1600 degrees and 2400 degrees, anything below or over that you will lose the item or not be able to make an item. For warm up and adding material only, I add 2 cc to get the bench going and wait about 3 rises then add another 2 cc. Wait for the spike and add 2 more cc. Continue to add cc after the spike until the temperature is over 2000 degrees. I suggest you wait to see if there will be another spike before starting to make a glass item. If the temperature drops, then you are back in control.
		+
		+	Now we are ready to make some glass items. Once the bench's temperature drops it will continue to drop unless you add 2 cc. To save on the amount of cc used, always add 2 cc when the temperature drops, this will start the 6 step rise sequence. So the cycle is 6 rises, then a drop, add 2 cc, 6 rises, then a drop, add 2 cc, continue this until the temperature gets down to less then 1800 decrees and on the 6th rise add 2 cc to get the small spike. Once you get good at the benches you will be able to drop a few times then spike the temperature back up to about 2200 degrees. Always watch for the glass item to finish and start making another one immediately. Each item has a different length of time for it to finish.
		+
		+	Once you have all the items you want to make, I suggest you refill the bench since you already have the temperature up to a decent degree. The chest next to our benches contain the materials needed to refill the benches. Each type of glass requires a different temperature to allow you to add material.
		+
		+	* Soda Glass 3200°
		+	* Normal Glass 3400°
		+	* Jewel Glass 4400°
		+
		+	You can use the same procedure I explained for the the warm up. Add 2 cc before the 6th rise, wait for the spike and add 2 more cc. Once melting temperature is reached, over load yourself with the ingredients and use the max button to fill it.
		+
		+	Congratulations!! By now you should have level 7 sheet glass.