User:DisShovel/Acid

2010-10-24T18:01:15Z

DisShovel:

Acid Research

I am researching acid ecology in the game because it seems to influence the spawn and movement of some mushrooms. See below.

What I have learned so far:

1) Acid 'spots' are naturally occurring

2) The spots dissipate over a relatively short period of time i.e. An Egypt day

What I hope to learn:

1) do the spots move or just fluctuate in place?

2) What is the min/max range of acid?

3) Do player actions or buildings effect the levels? If so which buildings or actions and under what conditions?

More acid observations here and on related data pages:

http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale4/Ecology_Research/Acid_Measurements

A theory of Dung Rot Spawn.

Clues:

In T4 we measured elevated acid levels on most locations where dung rots spawned, often between 8k and 10k. They seemed to deplete the acid over the coarse of several nights (levels would fall), and then the spawn would disappear. This is partially based upon what little has been said by Teppy on the matter. You can find that here: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale4/Mushroom_Theories

The name: Dung Rots.. because among the things that produce elevated acid levels are (we can test this):

Camel Pens

Sheep Pens

Tubs that are rotting dung (needs more testing)

Fire Pits

Metal work (it is unclear which buildings are contributing to this)

Metal Treatment

Naturally occurring for reasons unknown

It usually takes a large organization to own enough pens to have an effect. A single or few pens or buildings don't seem to produce much acid.

How we can test

You'll need ecology 2 (cheap skill) and a boat load of cabbage juice.

1) measure every sight where Dung Rots are found. Preferably every night they spawn, but even after the fact might be useful.

2) measure the areas around large concentrations of animal pens, heavily used firepits, and metal working buildings.

Record and share you findings.

Also note that PoT are often found at or near the same spots.. so measurements of those might help in finding one or both of these mushroom types.

Thanks for your help and interest... happy Schroomin'

User:DisShovel/Acid

2010-10-24T18:00:24Z

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User:DisShovel/beer

2010-10-22T23:13:24Z

DisShovel:

Yeast Y67 .. Location 809, -3844
West Bank of West Nile, Northern Maia

Alc character test #1
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200H start, 20 RM @ 48
Seal 1425

Brief Description:
Grassy Beer

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Alcohol: 1241 ---
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Color: 4 ---
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Mold: 0 ---
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Vitamins: 10 ---

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Glucose (sweet): 779 ---
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Maltose (sweet): 100 ---
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Lactose (sweet): 0 ---

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Citric Acid (sour): 0 ---
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Lactic Acid (sour): 0 ---
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Acetic Acid (sour): 0 ---

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Barley Flavor (pleasant): 48 ---
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Orange Flavor (fruity): 59 ---
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Banana Flavor (fruity): 83 ---
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Cherry Flavor (fruity): 114 ---
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Date Flavor (fruity): 18 ---
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Honey Flavor (fruity): 232 ---
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Nutmeg Flavor (slightly bitter): 99 ---
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Cinnamon Flavor (slightly bitter): 89 ---
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Tannin Flavor (very bitter): 24 ---
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Grassy Flavor (unpleasant): 126 ---
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Nasty Flavors (unpleasant): 58 ---

Microbes Detected: Yeast-67

Alc character test #2
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200H start 40LM 48 Seal 1425

Brief Description: Cloying Beer

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Alcohol: 1241 ---
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Color: 12 ---
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Mold: 0 ---
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Vitamins: 593 ---

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Glucose (sweet): 839 ---
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Maltose (sweet): 400 ---
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Lactose (sweet): 0 ---

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Citric Acid (sour): 0 ---
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Lactic Acid (sour): 0 ---
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Acetic Acid (sour): 0 ---

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Barley Flavor (pleasant): 48 ---
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Orange Flavor (fruity): 59 ---
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Banana Flavor (fruity): 83 ---
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Cherry Flavor (fruity): 114 ---
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Date Flavor (fruity): 18 ---
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Honey Flavor (fruity): 230 ---
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Nutmeg Flavor (slightly bitter): 99 ---
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Cinnamon Flavor (slightly bitter): 89 ---
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Tannin Flavor (very bitter): 24 ---
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Grassy Flavor (unpleasant): 90 ---
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Nasty Flavors (unpleasant): 58 ---

Microbes Detected: Yeast-67
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Vit Floor Test:
80H@0 20RM@48 Seal:1425

Brief Description: Grassy Beer

--- Alcohol: 846 ---
--- Color: 4 ---
--- Mold: 0 ---
--- Vitamins: 304 ---

--- Glucose (sweet): 0 ---
--- Maltose (sweet): 74 ---
--- Lactose (sweet): 0 ---

--- Citric Acid (sour): 0 ---
--- Lactic Acid (sour): 0 ---
--- Acetic Acid (sour): 0 ---

--- Barley Flavor (pleasant): 48 ---
--- Orange Flavor (fruity): 40 ---
--- Banana Flavor (fruity): 57 ---
--- Cherry Flavor (fruity): 77 ---
--- Date Flavor (fruity): 12 ---
--- Honey Flavor (fruity): 103 ---
--- Nutmeg Flavor (slightly bitter): 68 ---
--- Cinnamon Flavor (slightly bitter): 61 ---
--- Tannin Flavor (very bitter): 24 ---
--- Grassy Flavor (unpleasant): 102 ---
--- Nasty Flavors (unpleasant): 40 ---

Microbes Detected: Yeast-67

User:DisShovel/beer

2010-10-22T21:45:00Z

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2010-10-22T21:44:07Z

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2010-09-22T22:25:23Z

DisShovel:

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Skills

2010-09-16T18:05:13Z

DisShovel:

{{Languages}}

Skills are acquired from Schools, and schools require tuition (in the form of goods) in return for giving you a skill.

== Skills By Level ==
* [[Levels]]

== Multi-School Skills ==
Degrees in the following skills may be purchased from multiple schools, in any order, but only one degree at each level indicated.
* {{5}}[[Desiccation]] {{Level|3|5|7}}
* [[Salvage Techniques]] {{Level|1|4|7|{{5}}14|21|{{5}}28|{{5}}35}}
* [[Structure Maintenance]] {{Level|1|4|7|{{5}}14|{{5}}21|{{5}}28|{{5}}35}}
* [[Structure Repair]] {{Level|4|8|{{5}}12|{{5}}16|{{5}}22|{{5}}30|{{5}}38}}

* All levels of [[Mechanics]] can be learned at {{Level|8}}.

== School of Architecture ==

*[[Brick Rack Construction]] {{Level|0}} - 4 [[Boards]]
*[[Carpentry]] {{Level|0}} - 3 [[Stone Blade]]s
*[[Compound Construction]] {{Level|1}} - 100 [[Boards]], 200 [[Bricks]]
*[[Mechanics]] {{Level|8}} - requires [[Automation]], {{5}} 400 [[Concrete]]
*[[Ritual Item Construction]] {{Level|3}} - 10 [[Linen]], 200 [[Firebricks]], 100 [[Oil]]
*[[Rock Saw Construction]] {{Level|2}} - 10 [[Flint]] (Requires [[Stonecutting]])
*[[Salvage Techniques]] ''Multi-School Skill (see chart above)'' - 200 [[Firebricks]]
*[[Stone Blade Fabrication]] {{Level|0}} - 7 [[Slate]]
*[[Structure Maintenance]] - 20 [[Oil]]
*[[Structure Repair]] {{Level|4+}} - 14 [[Pulley]]
*[[Rocks of the Ages]] {{Level|0}} - 10 [[Slate]] (Requires [[Perception]] +1, Can be repeated)

== School of Art & Music ==

* [[Advanced Tub Design]]
** First Degree {{Level|11}} - 200 [[Saltpeter]], 200 [[Sulfur]], 20 [[Tar]], 1 [[Tangerine Marble]]
** {{5}}Second Degree {{Level|14}} - 100 [[Iron Bars]], 10 [[Small Barrels]], 50 [[Fine Glass Pipe]], 20 [[Barrel Tap]]
* [[Camp Decoration]]
** First Degree {{Level|8}} - 7 [[Medium Ruby]], 7 [[Medium Emerald]], 7 [[Medium Sapphire]], 7 [[Medium Diamond]]
** {{5}}Second Degree {{Level|10}} - 1 [[Large Diamond]], 1 [[Large Emerald]], 1 [[Large Ruby]], 1 [[Large Sapphire]]
** {{5}}Third Degree {{Level|12}} - 7 [[Large Diamond]], 7 [[Large Emerald]], 7 [[Large Ruby]], 7 [[Large Sapphire]]
** {{5}}Fourth Degree {{Level|14}} - 1 [[Huge Diamond]], 1 [[Huge Emerald]], 1 [[Huge Ruby]], 1 [[Huge Sapphire]]
** {{5}}Fifth Degree {{Level|21}} - 7 [[Huge Diamond]], 7 [[Huge Emerald]], 7 [[Huge Ruby]], 7 [[Huge Sapphire]]
* [[Clothwork]] {{Level|0}} - 20 [[Rotten Flax]]
* [[Desiccation]] - requires [[Basic Chemistry]], 5 [[Salt]], 1 [[Huge Topaz]]
* [[Ferry Construction]] {{Level|0}} - 4 [[Tar]]
* [[Flax Processing]] {{Level|0}} - 20 [[Flax]]
* [[Mechanics]] {{Level|8}} - ''requires [[Automation]]'', {{5}} 49 [[Acid]]
* [[Salvage Techniques]] ''Multi-School Skill (see chart above)'' - 100 [[Candle]]
* [[Structure Maintenance]] - 4 [[Thermometer]], 100 [[Sheet Glass]]
* [[Structure Repair]] {{Level|4+}}- 60 [[Linen]]
* [[The Art of the Pipe]] {{Level|5}} - requires [[Advanced Glassblowing]], {{5}} 7 [[Fine Glass Rods]]

== School of Body ==

*[[Botanical Identification]]
**First Degree {{level|10}} - 10 [[requires::Acorn's Cap]], 10 [[requires::Bleeding Hand]], 10 [[requires::Camel's Mane Mushroom|Camel's Mane]], 10 [[requires::Cobra's Hood Mushroom|Cobra's Hood]], 10 [[requires::Dead Tongue]], 10 [[requires::Toad Skin Mushroom|Toad Skin]]
**Second Degree {{level|<=15}} - 15 [[requires::Fish Hook Mushroom]], 15 [[requires::Hairy Tooth Mushroom]], 15 [[requires::Slave's Bread Mushroom]], 15 [[requires::Nefertari's Crown Mushroom]], 15 [[requires::Ra's Awakening Mushroom]], 15 [[requires::Earth Light Mushroom]]
* [[Carving]]
** First Degree {{Level|1}} - 100 [[Wood]]
** Second Degree {{Level|3}} - 10 [[Sharpened Stick]], 10 [[Tinder]]
** Third Degree {{Level|6}} - 10 [[Glass Blade]], 10 [[Wooden Peg]]
** Fourth Degree {{Level|10}} - 10 [[Barrel Tap]], 10 [[Wooden Pestle]]
** {{5}}Fifth Degree {{Level|14}} - 10 [[Bottle Stopper]], 10 [[Cotter Pin]]
* [[Cooperage]] {{Level|5}} - requires [[Advanced Metallurgy]], 2 [[Brass Plate]], 50 [[Copper Strap]], 100 [[Boards]]
* [[Ecology]]
** First Degree {{Level|3}} - 10 [[Tadpoles]], 5 [[Flax]], 1 [[Papyrus]]
** Second Degree {{Level|7}} - 20 [[Cabbage Juice]]
** Third Degree {{Level|12}} - 20 [[Dried Flax]]
** {{5}}Fourth Degree {{Level|19}} - 50 [[Cabbage]]
** {{5}}Fifth Degree {{Level|26}} - 10 [[Papyrus Paper]], 20 [[Cactus Sap]]
* [[Fly Fishing]] {{Level|1}} - 16 [[Thread]], 1 [[Sharpened Stick]]
* [[Indonesian Bee Care]] {{Level|16}} {{5ok}} - 500 [[Honey]]
* [[Rhythmic Strength]] {{Level|1}} - 500 [[Grass]]
* [[Salvage Techniques]] ''Multi-School Skill (see chart above)'' - 1000 [[Charcoal]]
* [[Structure Maintenance]] - 300 [[Linen]], 300 [[Canvas]]
* [[Structure Repair]] {{Level|4+}} - 200 [[Cut Stone]], 200 [[Beeswax]], 200 [[Charcoal]]

== School of Harmony ==

* [[Conflict Shrine Construction]] {{Level|7}} - 1 [[Oyster Shell Marble]]
* [[Exploration Travel]]
** First Degree {{Level|1}} - 2 [[Leather]]
** Second Degree {{Level|14}} - 100 [[Leather]] 7 [[Gems|Large Opals]] 7 [[Fish|Bay Lobster Meat]]
* [[Project Management]]
** First Degree {{Level|1}} - 2 [[Canvas]], 6 [[Rope]]
** Second Degree {{Level|7}} - see [[#School of Leadership|School of Leadership]]
* [[Navigation]]
** First Degree {{Level|7}} - 50 [[Water in Jugs]]
** Second Degree {{Level|10}} - 20 [[Glass Rods]]
** Third Degree {{Level|14}} - 25 [[Copper]]
** {{5}}Fourth Degree {{Level|19}} - 50 [[Papyrus Paper]]
** {{5}}Fifth Degree {{Level|25}} - 6 [[Silk Cloth]]
** {{5}}Sixth Degree {{Level|32}} - 1 [[Large Sapphire]]
** {{5}}Seventh Degree {{Level|40}} - 7 [[Huge Topaz]]
* [[Salvage Techniques]] ''Multi-School Skill (see chart above)'' - 4 [[Night Granite]], 4 [[Canary Granite]], 4 [[White Travertine]]
* [[Structure Maintenance]] - 500 [[Papyrus Paper]], 125 [[Glass Rods]]
* [[Structure Repair]] {{Level|4+}} - 300 [[Glass Rods]], 300 [[Leather]]

== School of Leadership ==

* [[Firebuilding]] {{Level|1}} - (Requires [[Controlled Burn]]) 4 [[Tinder]]
* [[Mechanics]] {{Level|8}} - ''requires [[Automation]]'', {{5}} 1000 [[Gold Wire]]
* [[Project Management]]
** First Degree - see [[#School of Harmony|School of Harmony]]
** Second Degree {{Level|7}} - 4 [[Canvas]], 12 [[Rope]]
* [[Salvage Techniques]] ''Multi-School Skill (see chart above)'' - 200 [[Cut Stone]], 100 [[Clay]], 2 [[Oyster Shell Marble]]
* [[Structure Maintenance]] - 2 [[Large Gear]], 80 [[Leather]]
* [[Structure Repair]] {{Level|4+}} - 300 [[Papyrus Paper]], 300 [[Flint]]

== School of Thought ==

* [[Desiccation]] - requires [[Basic Chemistry]], {{5}} 20 [[Sulphurous Water]], 1 [[Huge Quartz]]
* [[Kiln Construction]]
** First Degree {{Level|1}} - 20 [[Bricks]]
** Second Degree {{Level|15}} - {{5}} 200 [[Firebricks]], 10 [[Marble#Serpentine_Marble|Serpentine Marble]], 200 [[Cut Stone]]
* [[Mechanics]] {{Level|8}} - ''requires [[Automation]]'', {{5}} 10 [[Cuttable Lapis]], 10 [[Cuttable Garnet]], 10 [[Cuttable Amethyst]], 10 [[Cuttable Turquoise]]
* [[Pottery]] {{Level|0}} - 10 [[Clay]]
* [[Salvage Techniques]] ''Multi-School Skill (see chart above)'' - 20 [[Cuttable Garnet]], 20 [[Cuttable Turquoise]]
* [[Structure Maintenance]] - 300 [[Bricks]], 50 [[Oil]], 50 [[Beeswax]]
* [[Structure Repair]] {{Level|4+}} - 2 [[Oyster Shell Marble]], 20 [[Cuttable Jade]], 200 [[Bricks]]

== School of Worship ==

* [[Arthropodology]]
** First Degree {{Level|2}} - 100 [[Dirt]]
** Second Degree {{Level|5}} - 200 [[Tadpoles]]
** Third Degree {{Level|8}} - 300 [[Beeswax]]
** Fourth Degree {{Level|11}} - 400 [[Cactus Sap]]
** Fifth Degree {{Level|14}} - 500 [[Raw Silk]]
* [[Botanist's Touch]] {{Level|?}} - 150 [[Flower Fertilizer]], 100 [[Sticky Sun Fertilizer]], 100 [[Liquid Sun Fertilizer]], 50 [[Harvest Elixir]], 1 [[Kehfre's Essence]]
* [[Cooking]]
** First Degree {{Level|1}} - 100 [[Cabbage]], 100 [[Carrots]], 100 [[Onions]], 100 [[Leeks]], 100 [[Garlic]]
** Second Degree {{Level|4}} - 20 [[Common Sage]], 20 [[Thyme]], 20 [[Common Rosemary]]
** Third Degree {{Level|7}} - 49 [[Salt]]
** Fourth Degree {{Level|11}} - 7 [[Camels Mane Mushroom|Camel's Mane]], 7 [[Cobra Hood Mushroom|Cobra Hood]], 7 [[Dead Tongue Mushroom|Dead Tongue]], 7 [[Iron Knot Mushroom|Iron Knot]], 7 [[Peasant's Foot Mushroom|Peasant's Foot]], 7 [[Toad Skin Mushroom|Toad Skin]], 7 [[Slave's Bread Mushroom|Slave's Bread]]
** Fifth Degree {{Level|16}} - 7 [[Chukkah]], 7 [[Crimson Lettuce]], 7 [[Crumpled Leaf Basil]], 7 [[Dwarf Wild Lettuce]], 7 [[Jaivanti]], 7 [[Royal Rosemary]], 7 [[Wild Garlic]]
** {{5}}Sixth degree {{Level|22}} - 100 [[Peppers]], 100 [[Eggplant]], 100 [[Cucumbers]], 100 [[Coconut Meat]]
** {{5}}Seventh degree {{Level|29}} - 100 [[Barley]] (Burnt), 100 [[Malt]] (Burnt), 100 [[Wheat]] (Burnt)
* [[Desiccation]] - Requires [[Basic Chemistry]], 10 [[Coconut Water]], 1 [[Huge Ruby]]
* [[Filleting]]
** {{Level|3}} - 7 [[Knife Blade]], 7 [[Phagrus Meat]], 20 [[Common Basil]]
** {{Level|≤10}} - 3 [[Hatchet]], 70 [[Carp Meat]], 25 [[Salt]], 77 [[Glass Jars]]
* [[Fly Tying]]
** First Degree {{Level|3}} - 100 [[Thread]], 25 [[Thorns]]
** Second Degree {{Level|6}} - 7 [[Insects#Nippleworm|Nippleworm]], 7 [[Insects#Pickel Slug|Pickel Slug]], 7 [[Insects#Leafhopper|Leafhopper]], 7 [[Insects#Fruit Maggot|Fruit Maggot]], 7 [[Insects#Woolly Aphid|Woolly Aphid]], 7 [[Insects#Slime Moth|Slime Moth]], 7 [[Insects#Rose Mite|Rose Mite]]
** Third Degree {{Level|9}} - 14 [[Insects#Footworm|Footworm]], 14 [[Insects#Clay Slug|Clay Slug]], 14 [[Insects#Snowberry Butterfly|Snowberry Butterfly]], 14 [[Insects#Woodmoth|Woodmoth]], 14 [[Insects#Red Cricket|Red Cricket]], 14 [[Insects#Honey Fly|Honey Fly]], 14 [[Insects#Skinlicker|Skinlicker]]
** Forth Degree {{Level|12}} - 21 [[Insects#Needleworm|Needleworm]], 21 [[Insects#White Mealybug|White Mealybug]], 21 [[Insects#Rose Swallowtail | Rose Swallowtail]], 21 [[Insects#Ruby Hornborrer| Ruby Hornborrer]], 21 [[Insects#Ash Centipede|Ash Centipede]], 21 [[Insects#Grass Slug|Grass Slug]], 21 [[Insects#White Sawfly|White Sawfly]]
** Fifth Degree {{Level|?}} - 28 [[Insects#Bristleworm|Bristleworm]], 28 [[Insects#Blister Beetle|Blister Beetle]], 28 [[Insects#Leaf Snapper|Leaf Snapper]], 28 [[Insects#Nightwing|Nightwing]], 28 [[Insects#Horned Hookworm|Horned Hookworm]], 28 [[Insects#Salt Mite|Salt Mite]], 28 [[Insects#Hairy Slug|Hairy Slug]]

* [[Foraging]]
** First Degree {{Level|2}} - 300 [[Thorns]], 30 [[Cactus Sap]]
** Second Degree (Foraging Memory) {{Level|9}} - 7 [[Yellow Tristeria]], 7 [[Sweetsop]], 7 [[Pulmonaria Opal]], 7 [[Orange Sweetgrass]], 7 [[Ilex]], 7 [[Fumitory]], 7 [[Ashoka]]
* [[Mechanics]] {{Level|8}} - ''requires [[Automation]]'', {{5}} 1 [[Huge Sapphire]], 1 [[Large Emerald]], 1 [[Medium Diamond]], 1 [[Small Topaz]]
* [[Pilgrim Shrine Construction]] {{Level|9}} - 1 [[Oyster Shell Marble]], 1 [[Yellow Alabaster]], 1 [[Mud Granite]]
* [[Ritual Item Construction]] (Second Degree) {{Level|5}} - 14 [[Candle]]
* [[Salvage Techniques]] ''Multi-School Skill (see chart above)'' - 300 [[Leather]], 300 [[Glass Rods]], 300 [[Papyrus Paper]]
* [[Structure Maintenance]] - 4 [[Mud Granite]], 4 [[Rose Alabaster]]
* [[Structure Repair]] - {{Level|4+}} 1 [[Huge Emerald]], 1 [[Large Topaz]], 1 [[Medium Ruby]], 1 [[Small Sapphire]]