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Celaeno Obelisk Queue

2010-09-16T12:20:55Z

JudahSavahna: /* Celaeno Desert Obelisk Queue */

=== Celaeno [[Desert_Obelisk|Desert Obelisk]] Queue ===
(1 Egyptian week Pass time, approximately 2 1/2 days)
{|cellspacing="0" border="1" width="400" class="wikitable sortable"
!User !! Height !! Status
|-
| Barek || 7 || Was queue jumped and re-built at 11
|-
| --- || 8-10 || Lost due to queue jumper
|-
| Barek || 11 || Someone built a 24 cubit and disassembled it
|-
| Barek || 25 || Lost due to 39 cubit jumper
|-
| Barek || 40 || Passed
|-
| Zackron || 41 || Passed
|-
| Lynnetra || - || Bowing out. Will wait 6 months. Good luck everyone.
|-
| Ori|| 42 || Passed
|-
| Ahkten|| 43 || Passed
|-
| Seachi || 44 || Passed
|-
| PetruxIII || 45 || Passed
|-
| Mariamom || 46 || Passed
|-
| VBDrinken || 47 || Passed
|-
| Eve || 48 || Passed
|-
| Eros || 49 || Passed
|-
| JudahSavahna || 50 || [http://armeagle.atitd.org/timer.php/41415326/teppy/ATITD5.A/img.png]
|-
| Nefreten || 52 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Salrilk || 53 || Ready
|-
| Hitch || 54 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Akebono || 55 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Muevo || 56 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Larynth || 57 || Collecting mats and waiting (Inactive)
|-
| Viruk || 58 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Mewmiew || 59 || Collecting mats and waiting

Celaeno Obelisk Queue

2010-09-16T12:20:13Z

JudahSavahna: /* Celaeno Desert Obelisk Queue */

=== Celaeno [[Desert_Obelisk|Desert Obelisk]] Queue ===
(1 Egyptian week Pass time, approximately 2 1/2 days)
{|cellspacing="0" border="1" width="400" class="wikitable sortable"
!User !! Height !! Status
|-
| Barek || 7 || Was queue jumped and re-built at 11
|-
| --- || 8-10 || Lost due to queue jumper
|-
| Barek || 11 || Someone built a 24 cubit and disassembled it
|-
| Barek || 25 || Lost due to 39 cubit jumper
|-
| Barek || 40 || Passed
|-
| Zackron || 41 || Passed
|-
| Lynnetra || - || Bowing out. Will wait 6 months. Good luck everyone.
|-
| Ori|| 42 || Passed
|-
| Ahkten|| 43 || Passed
|-
| Seachi || 44 || Passed
|-
| PetruxIII || 45 || Passed
|-
| Mariamom || 46 || Passed
|-
| VBDrinken || 47 || Passed
|-
| Eve || 48 || Passed
|-
| Eros || 49 || Passed
|-
| JudahSavahna || 50 || {http://armeagle.atitd.org/timer.php/41415326/teppy/ATITD5.A/img.png}
|-
| Nefreten || 52 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Salrilk || 53 || Ready
|-
| Hitch || 54 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Akebono || 55 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Muevo || 56 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Larynth || 57 || Collecting mats and waiting (Inactive)
|-
| Viruk || 58 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Mewmiew || 59 || Collecting mats and waiting

Celaeno Obelisk Queue

2010-09-16T12:17:32Z

JudahSavahna: /* Celaeno Desert Obelisk Queue */

Celaeno Obelisk Queue

2010-09-16T12:17:00Z

JudahSavahna: /* Celaeno Desert Obelisk Queue */

=== Celaeno [[Desert_Obelisk|Desert Obelisk]] Queue ===
(1 Egyptian week Pass time, approximately 2 1/2 days)
{|cellspacing="0" border="1" width="400" class="wikitable sortable"
!User !! Height !! Status
|-
| Barek || 7 || Was queue jumped and re-built at 11
|-
| --- || 8-10 || Lost due to queue jumper
|-
| Barek || 11 || Someone built a 24 cubit and disassembled it
|-
| Barek || 25 || Lost due to 39 cubit jumper
|-
| Barek || 40 || Passed
|-
| Zackron || 41 || Passed
|-
| Lynnetra || - || Bowing out. Will wait 6 months. Good luck everyone.
|-
| Ori|| 42 || Passed
|-
| Ahkten|| 43 || Passed
|-
| Seachi || 44 || Passed
|-
| PetruxIII || 45 || Passed
|-
| Mariamom || 46 || Passed
|-
| VBDrinken || 47 || Passed
|-
| Eve || 48 || Passed
|-
| Eros || 49 || Passed
|-
| JudahSavahna || 50 || [http://armeagle.atitd.org/timer.php/41415176/teppy/ATITD5.A/txt]
|-
| Nefreten || 52 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Salrilk || 53 || Ready
|-
| Hitch || 54 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Akebono || 55 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Muevo || 56 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Larynth || 57 || Collecting mats and waiting (Inactive)
|-
| Viruk || 58 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Mewmiew || 59 || Collecting mats and waiting

Celaeno Obelisk Queue

2010-09-16T12:16:03Z

JudahSavahna: /* Celaeno Desert Obelisk Queue */

=== Celaeno [[Desert_Obelisk|Desert Obelisk]] Queue ===
(1 Egyptian week Pass time, approximately 2 1/2 days)
{|cellspacing="0" border="1" width="400" class="wikitable sortable"
!User !! Height !! Status
|-
| Barek || 7 || Was queue jumped and re-built at 11
|-
| --- || 8-10 || Lost due to queue jumper
|-
| Barek || 11 || Someone built a 24 cubit and disassembled it
|-
| Barek || 25 || Lost due to 39 cubit jumper
|-
| Barek || 40 || Passed
|-
| Zackron || 41 || Passed
|-
| Lynnetra || - || Bowing out. Will wait 6 months. Good luck everyone.
|-
| Ori|| 42 || Passed
|-
| Ahkten|| 43 || Passed
|-
| Seachi || 44 || Passed
|-
| PetruxIII || 45 || Passed
|-
| Mariamom || 46 || Passed
|-
| VBDrinken || 47 || Passed
|-
| Eve || 48 || Passed
|-
| Eros || 49 || Passed
|-
| JudahSavahna || 50 || http://armeagle.atitd.org/timer.php/41415057/teppy/ATITD5.A/txt
|-
| Nefreten || 52 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Salrilk || 53 || Ready
|-
| Hitch || 54 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Akebono || 55 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Muevo || 56 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Larynth || 57 || Collecting mats and waiting (Inactive)
|-
| Viruk || 58 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Mewmiew || 59 || Collecting mats and waiting

Celaeno Obelisk Queue

2010-09-15T18:00:53Z

JudahSavahna: /* Celaeno Desert Obelisk Queue */

=== Celaeno [[Desert_Obelisk|Desert Obelisk]] Queue ===
(1 Egyptian week Pass time, approximately 2 1/2 days)
{|cellspacing="0" border="1" width="400" class="wikitable sortable"
!User !! Height !! Status
|-
| Barek || 7 || Was queue jumped and re-built at 11
|-
| --- || 8-10 || Lost due to queue jumper
|-
| Barek || 11 || Someone built a 24 cubit and disassembled it
|-
| Barek || 25 || Lost due to 39 cubit jumper
|-
| Barek || 40 || Passed
|-
| Zackron || 41 || Passed
|-
| Lynnetra || - || Bowing out. Will wait 6 months. Good luck everyone.
|-
| Ori|| 42 || Passed
|-
| Ahkten|| 43 || Passed
|-
| Seachi || 44 || Passed
|-
| PetruxIII || 45 || Passed
|-
| Mariamom || 46 || Passed
|-
| VBDrinken || 47 || Passed
|-
| Eve || 48 || Passed
|-
| Eros || 49 || http://armeagle.atitd.org/timer.php/40744942/teppy/ATITD5.A/img.png
|-
| JudahSavahna || 50 || Will have mats ready by the time Eros passes.
|-
| Nefreten || 52 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Salrilk || 53 || Ready
|-
| Hitch || 54 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Akebono || 55 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Muevo || 56 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Larynth || 57 || Collecting mats and waiting (Inactive)
|-
| Viruk || 58 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Mewmiew || 59 || Collecting mats and waiting

Celaeno Obelisk Queue

2010-09-15T12:10:37Z

JudahSavahna: /* Celaeno Desert Obelisk Queue */

=== Celaeno [[Desert_Obelisk|Desert Obelisk]] Queue ===
(1 Egyptian week Pass time, approximately 2 1/2 days)
{|cellspacing="0" border="1" width="400" class="wikitable sortable"
!User !! Height !! Status
|-
| Barek || 7 || Was queue jumped and re-built at 11
|-
| --- || 8-10 || Lost due to queue jumper
|-
| Barek || 11 || Someone built a 24 cubit and disassembled it
|-
| Barek || 25 || Lost due to 39 cubit jumper
|-
| Barek || 40 || Passed
|-
| Zackron || 41 || Passed
|-
| Lynnetra || - || Bowing out. Will wait 6 months. Good luck everyone.
|-
| Ori|| 42 || Passed
|-
| Ahkten|| 43 || Passed
|-
| Seachi || 44 || Passed
|-
| PetruxIII || 45 || Passed
|-
| Mariamom || 46 || Passed
|-
| VBDrinken || 47 || Passed
|-
| Eve || 48 || Passed
|-
| Eros || 49 || http://armeagle.atitd.org/timer.php/40744942/teppy/ATITD5.A/img.png
|-
| Stoneyard || 50 || Not ready yet, I'll pass for now
|-
| JudahSavahna || 50-51 || Gathering materials. Hoping to have enough mats by the time Eros passes. Will update consistently
|-
| Nefreten || 52 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Salrilk || 53 || Ready
|-
| Hitch || 54 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Akebono || 55 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Muevo || 56 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Larynth || 57 || Collecting mats and waiting (Inactive)
|-
| Viruk || 58 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Mewmiew || 59 || Collecting mats and waiting

Kettle

2010-09-06T02:04:01Z

JudahSavahna:

{{Template:BuildingInfo|image=kettle.png|size=5x5|where=[[where::Compound]]|description=For evaporating liquids.}}

A Kettle is used for creating a range of products like [[Potash]] and [[Arsenic]]. It can also be used for evaporating various liquids by boiling.

== Cost ==
* 4 [[requires::Copper Sheeting]]
* 1 [[requires::Iron Pot]]

Built in a [[Compound]]. Uses 5x5 cells. 

== Source ==
This building becomes available after you have learned the [[Cooking]] skill. Specific recipes may require additional techs or skills (see below).

== Products ==
{| border="1" cellpadding="5"
|-
! Output !! Input !! Method || Tech/Skill Needed
|-
| 5 [[produces::Potash]] || 5 [[Ash]], 25 [[Water in Jugs]] || Stoked || None
|-
| 50 [[produces::Flower Fertilizer]] || 1 [[Catfish]], 1 [[Perch Fish]], 1 [[Tilapia Fish]], 5 [[Water in Jugs]], 5 [[Wood]] || Non-stoked || [[Horticulture]]
|-
| 50 [[produces::Grain Fertilizer]] || 1 [[Carp Meat]], 5 [[Water in Jugs]], 5 [[Wood]] || Non-stoked || [[Barley Cultivation]]
|-
| 50 [[produces::Weed Killer]] || 1 [[Toad Skin Mushrooms]], 5 [[Water in Jugs]], 5 [[Wood]] || Non-stoked || [[Barley Cultivation]] 
|-
| 25 [[produces::Sulfur]]* || 25 [[Sulphurous Water]] || Stoked || [[Desiccation]] (1)
|-
| 3 [[produces::Salt]] || 25 [[Coconut Water]] || Stoked || [[Desiccation]] (2) to configure kettle but not to run it
|-
| 3 [[produces::Acid]] || 25 [[Sulphurous Water]], 1 [[Salt]] || Stoked || [[Desiccation]] (3) to configure kettle but not to run it
|-
| 8 [[produces::Arsenic]] || 1 [[Razor's Edge Mushroom]], 1 [[Scorpion's Brood Mushroom]], 5 [[Oil]], 5 [[Wood]] || Non-stoked || [[Toxin Extraction]]
|-
| 1 [[produces::Geb's Tears]] || 10 [[:Category:Flowers|Flower]] bulbs || Non-stoked (?) || [[Advanced Horticulture]]
|}

'''NOTE:''' [[Sulfur]] can also be made by evaporating [[Sulphurous Water]] in a tub, which does not use wood or require any skills. Basic and Sturdy Tubs break with usage.

==Methods ==
There are two methods used for the kettle:
* Non-stoked - load with requirements including [[fuel::wood]], leave until complete (Takes about 42 real seconds to complete).
* Stoked - load with requirements, stoke with wood and ignite, continue to add wood/stoke as it burns down until the liquid is boiled off. For stoked runs (see details below), you will need 28 wood per kettle (assuming no mistakes), with the total process taking about 15 teppy minutes (about 30 teppysec per tic / Tic meaning each wood burned takes about 30s each).

==== Stoking ====
In general terms, it works as follows:
* Once the kettle is ignited, it runs in a series of 30-teppysecond ticks. At the beginning of each tick, it consumes one deben of wood. At the end of the tick, it evaporates one deben of water. (Meaning that most of the time, except for the very beginning and end of the batch, it will consume one wood and one water simultaneously every 30 tsec.)
* The first three ticks after igniting are "warm-up" ticks... wood is consumed, but no water is evaporated.
* If at the beginning of a tick there is no wood left under the kettle, the fire goes out. The batch isn't ruined, but the fire will have to be reignited, and will go through the warm-up process again, wasting time and wood.
* You can stoke the kettle at any time to add wood, but it will only hold up to 5 at once.
* Takes 15 Teppy minutes to complete.

==== Stoking Run ====
# Load requirements
# Ignite (cost 5 wood)
#* Burns off 1 wood in lighting
#* Fire burns till 0 (4 wood)
# At 0 wood stoke 5; water is at 24 now
# At 0 wood stoke 5; water is at 19 now
# At 0 wood stoke 5; water is at 14 now
# At 0 wood stoke 5; water is at 9 now
# At 2 wood stoke 3; water is at 6 now
# Let burn out
# Take the product (don't discard!)

[[Category:Buildings]]

Fishing Guide

2010-08-30T07:19:10Z

JudahSavahna: /* Which lure for which fish */

[[Category:Guides]]
==== General Information ====

You need to find insects to build a lure to fish.

Three skills are necessary:
*[[Fly Fishing]] from the School of Body to build the fly fishing rod (a rod is given to you upon learning the skill
*[[Arthropodology]] from the School of Worship to find insects while doing random activities in game
*[[Fly Tying]] from the School of Worship to build the lure

Making a lure requires an [[Insects|insect]], 2 [[Thread]], and 1 [[Thorn]]. It is built by going to the Skills menu and clicking Fly Tying.

==== Results ====

If you are lucky, and are using an effective combination of lure, location, and time, you will catch a fish, which will immediately go into your inventory.

Failure messages include one of the following (the precise meaning of the various failure messages is still being worked out):
* "No fish bit. Try different lures and locations."
* "You didn't catch anything. Try different lures and locations."
* "You almost caught an odd fish, but you were too late recognizing the bite."
* "You almost caught an unusual fish, but you were not quick enough."

Additionally, there is a small chance of losing your lure with each failure.

Standing in one spot, over about 15 casts with the same lure, I received two of the different failure messages, "No fish bit..." and "You didn't catch anything..." But I also caught 5 different fish (Catfish, Perch, Chromis, Catfish, Carp). So getting a failure message isn't indicative of no fish in the area.

==== Skill Costs ====
{| border="1" cellpadding="5"
! Skill !! School !! Degree !! Level to learn !! Cost
|-
| [[Fly Fishing]] || Body || First ||align="right"| 1 || 16 [[Thread]], 1 [[Sharpened Stick]]
|-
|rowspan="4"| [[Arthropodology]] ||rowspan="4"| Worship || First ||align="right"| 2 || 100 [[Dirt]]
|-
| Second ||align="right"| 5 || 200 [[Tadpoles]]
|-
| Third ||align="right"| 8 || 300 [[Beeswax]]
|-
| Fourth ||align="right"| 11 || 400 [[Cactus Sap]]
|-
|rowspan="3"| [[Fly Tying]] ||rowspan="3"| Worship || First ||align="right"| 3 || 100 [[Thread]], 25 [[Thorns]]
|-
| Second ||align="right"| 6 || 7 Nippleworm, 7 Pickel Slug, 7 Leafhopper, 7 Fruit Maggot, 7 Woolly Aphid, 7 Slime Moth, 7 Rose Mite
|-
| Third ||align="right"| 9 || 14 Footworm, 14 Clay Slug, 14 Snowberry Butterfly, 14 Woodmoth, 14 Red Cricket, 14 Honey Fly, 14 Skinlicker
|-
|rowspan="2"| [[Filleting]] ||rowspan="2"| Worship || First ||align="right"| 3 || 7 [[Knife Blade]], 7 [[Fish#Phagrus|Phagrus Meat]], 20 [[Foraging#Common Basil|Common Basil]]
|-
| Second ||align="right"| ? || 3 [[Sharp Edged Blade]], 14 [[Fish#Oxyrynchus|Oxyrynchus Meat]], 25 [[Salt]], 77 [[Glass Jars]]
|}

==== Insects ====
There are rumored to be 49 different species of [[Insects]], split into 7 different classes.

* Ash centipede
* Blister Beetle
* Bloodworm
* Bristleworm
* Clay Slug
* Corkscrew Asp
* Desert Millipede
* Dew Fly
* Feather Midge
* Footworm
* Fruit Maggot
* Glass Worm
* Golden Asp
* Grass Slug
* Hairy Slug
* Honey Fly
* Horned Hookworm
* Leaf Hopper
* Mud Asp
* Needleworm
* Nippleworm
* Orchid Hopper
* Oyster Mite
* Pickel Slug
* Queen Maggot
* Red Cricket
* Ringed Wasp
* Rose Mite
* Ruby Hornborrer
* Salt Mite
* Sand Mite
* Skinlicker
* Slime Moth
* Snowberry Butterfly
* Spittlebug
* Stonefly
* White Mealybug
* White Sawfly
* Woodmoth
* Woolly Aphid

With the [[Arthropodology]] skill, can find insects while: Water mining, picking papyrus, collecting wood, thorns, slate, mud, dirt, harvesting flax, diving for pearls, carving wood, foraging, slaughtering sheep

==== Achievements ====

* Found all 7 Tree Dwelling insects.--merek
* Found all 7 Ground Dwelling insects.--meriamon
* Found all 7 Water Dwelling Insects. -- NecasT

==== Notes ====

Some BETA experiences (from Detour):

I went out fishing with 2 Red cricket (Fresh) lures. Hopped to about 6 different locations and cast about 10 times before losing both lures with no fish caught. I was getting the messages, "No fish bit. Try different lures and locations," or, "No fish bit. You also lost your lure. Try different lures and locations."

Next I used a Woodmoth (Fresh) lure. I caught 3 fish before losing it. They were 7, 6, and 6 deben Malapterurus. I was standing at 777, -1428 at around 6:26 AM game time. I lost the lure on the same cast as catching a fish and didn't get a notice about it. It just disappeared from my inventory. 
(Tanafri: On a successful fish catch, as I understand it, you will always lose the lure.)
(Haraelendil: you don't always loose you lure on a succesfull catch)

Finally, I used a Wooly aphid (Fresh) lure. I got to cast it about 3 times from different locations before I lost it with no fish caught.

Some LIVE experiences (from Detour):

Location: -48, -2148

Time: Afternoon, 12 - 3 PM, roughly.
{| border="1" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"
| '''Lure''' || '''Casts''' || '''Fish''' || '''Size in debens'''
|-
| " || || Abdju || 4
|-
| Ringed Wasp (Glazed) || 9 || Catfish || 2
|-
| " || || Abdju || 1
|-
| Ringed Wasp (Fresh) || 3 || - || -
|-
| Mud Asp (Glazed) || 11 || Carp || 2
|-
| " || || Perch || 2
|-
| " || || Catfish || 2
|-
| Mud Asp (Fresh) || 1 || - || -
|-
| Orchid Hopper (Glazed) || 17 || Tilapia || 3
|-
| " || || Chromis || 2
|-
| " || || Abdju || 1
|-
| " || || Tilapia || 1
|-
| Red Cricket (Glazed) || 2 || Perch || 2
|-
| Sand Mite (Glazed) || 15 || Catfish || 6
|-
| " || || "Unusual" 4 times ||
|-
| Slime Moth (Glazed) || 35 || Catfish || 2
|-
| " || || Catfish || 1
|-
| " || || Catfish || 1
|}

+2 Speed test - from Grilled Cabbage

Location: -48, -2148

Time: Afternoon, 4:30 - 6:00 PM, roughly.
{| border="1" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"
| '''Lure''' || '''Casts''' || '''Fish''' || '''Size in debens'''
|-
| Sand Mite (Glazed) || 24 || Catfish || 6
|-
| " || || Abdju || 3
|-
| " || || Chromis || 1
|-
| " || || Catfish || 1
|-
| " || || Abdju || 1
|-
| " || || Chromis || 1
|-
| " || || Catfish || 1
|-
| " || || "Unusual" 1 time ||
|-
| Sand Mite (Glazed) || 9 || Abdju|| 1
|-
| " || || "Unusual" 1 time ||
|-
| Sand Mite (Glazed) || 44 || Catfish || 1
|-
| " || || Chromis || 1
|-
| " || || Abdju || 1
|-
| " || || Catfish || 1
|-
| " || || Chromis || 1
|-
| " || || "Unusual" 3 times ||
|-
| " || || "Odd" 1 time ||
|-
| Spittlebug (Glazed) || 3 || - || -
|-
| Spittlebug (Glazed) || 7 || Carp || 3
|-
| " || || Ayu || 1
|-
| " || || Ayu || 1
|-
| Spittlebug (Glazed) || 9 || - || -
|}

Kaayru: I was fishing at a small pond in Sterope (1626 -697) at 1:25pm. Got the message "You almost caught an unusual fish, but you were not quick enough." - Is speed a factor?

tehm: there is also a "You almost caught an odd fish, but were too late recognizing the bite" message. I tried Grilled Garlic (+foc)- no observable change. Next tried Grilled Carrots (+per) and was still getting the message. Maybe "recognizing" means "snaring" rather than "identifying" and Dex or Speed is needed to "recognize"? 
(Tanafri: it's not the *fish* you're not recognizing, but the bite on the line.)

MynxFellswipe: It seems that fish size (in deben) decreases over time. I initially caught a 27db Ayu at 10pm, then gradually smaller (26, 25, 24...) as the hour passed. I had someone else fish next to me after some time. His fish sizes also started around the 26db mark and decreased steadily.

Saluk: I used Orchid Hopper to catch several 1db river crab in one spot (759 -5608) at around 6pm. Always 1db. Switched to Wooly Aphid and immediately caught a 5db river crab. Caught several more 5db with wooly aphid. The lure type definitely affects the size.

Tanafri: Fish has a bulk of 20, regardless of weight.

[[User:Khatzepsut/T5Beta | Khatz Fishing notes]]

=== Which lure for which fish ===

{| width=75% border="1" class="wikitable sortable"
|-
|align="center" bgcolor="#33CCCC"| '''Lure Type'''
|align="center" bgcolor="#33CCCC"| '''Time of Day'''
|align="center" bgcolor="#33CCCC"| '''Fish Caught'''
|align="center" bgcolor="#33CCCC"| '''Region'''
|-
|Ash Centipede (Fresh)
|8:40 pm
|Catfish, Carp
|-
|Bat Mite (Glazed)
|8:30 am
|Nile Mackerel
|-
|Blister Beetle (Fresh)
|''unknown''
|Hylian Loach
|-
|Blister Beetle (Fresh)
|8:45 pm
|Ayu
|-
|Bloodworm (Fresh)
|''unknown''
|River Crab
|-
|Clay Slug (Fresh)
|10:30pm
|Catfish, Spiny Dogfish
|-
|Footworm (Fresh)
|''unknown''
|Catfish
|-
|Footworm (Glazed)
|9:30 am
|Tigerfish
|-
|Fruit Maggot (Fresh)
|''unknown''
|White Oniontail
|-
|Glass Worm (Fresh)
|''5:28 AM''
| Pancake Loach, River Crab (1db)
|-
|Glass Worm (Fresh)
|''unknown''
|Catfish
|-
|Glass Worm (Fresh)
|11pm
|River Crab
|-
|Glass Worm (Fresh)
|1:10p
|Tigerfish
|-
|Glass Worm (Fresh)
|2:26p
|Carp
|Sinai
|-
|Golden Asp (Fresh)
|''1:55AM, 2:05AM''
|Ayu, Phagrus
|-
|Grass Slug (Fresh)
|''unknown''
|Hylian Loach
|-
|Grass Slug (Fresh)
|''unknown''
|River Crab
|-
|Horned Hookworm (Fresh)
|''9:45pm''
|Tilapia
|Celaeno
|-
|Horned Hookworm (Fresh)
|''5:31am''
|Perch
|-
|Honey Fly (Fresh)
|''unknown''
|Ayu
|-
|Mud Asp (Fresh)
|6:20 AM
|Moonfish
|-
|Mud Asp (Fresh)
|''unknown''
|Catfish
|-
|Mud Asp (Fresh)
|1:40 AM
|Carp, Perch, Chromis
|-
|Mud Asp (Glazed)
|4:15 AM
|Carp, Perch, Chromis
|-
|Needleworm(Fresh)
|2:14pm
|Abdju
|Sinai
|-
|Nippleworm (Fresh)
|''unknown''
|Catfish
|-
|Nippleworm (Fresh)
|6:47 pm
|Nile Mackerel
|-
|Orchid Hopper (Fresh)
|''6:30 AM''
|Bay Lobster
|-
|Orchid Hopper (Fresh)
|''5:30 PM''
|River Crab
|-
|Orchid Hopper (Fresh)
|''4:50 PM''
|Chromis
|-
|Orchid Hopper (Fresh)
|''10:11pm''
|River Crab (33 db)
|-
|Orchid Hopper (Fresh)
|''4:46pm''
|Tilapia
|-
|Orchid Hopper (Fresh)
|''4:46pm''
|Abdju
|-
|Orchid Hopper (Fresh)
|''6:00 PM''
|River Crab 5db
|-
|Orchid Hopper (Fresh)
|''10:00 PM''
|River Crab 22db
|-
|Orchid Hopper (Glazed)
|''5:30 AM''
|Tilapia
|-
|Oyster Mite (Fresh)
|''unknown''
|Hylian Loach
|-
|Oyster Mite (Fresh)
|''unknown''
|Malapterurus
|-
|Pickle Slug(Fresh)
|''unknown''
|Catfish
|-
|Pickle Slug(Fresh)
|11am
|Catfish
|-
|Pickle Slug(Fresh)
| 7:30pm
| Abdju
|Sinai
|-
|Pickle Slug(Fresh)
|10:15pm
|Catfish 2db
|-
|Pickle Slug(Preserved)
|3:45am
|Bay Lobster
|-
|Queen Maggot (Fresh)
|''1:40AM''
|Spiky Dogfish
|-
|Red Cricket(Fresh)
|1:25pm
|Tilapia
|Sinai
|-
|Ringed Wasp (Fresh)
|''11:13pm''
|River Crab, Catfish, Nile Mackerel
|-
|Ringed Wasp (Fresh)
|4:30pm
|Abdju, Catfish
|-
|Sand Mite (Fresh)
|''12:30PM, 12:43PM''
|Tigerfish, White Oniontail
|-
|Spittle Bug (Fresh)
|''4:10PM, 7:30 PM, 11:50 PM''
|Ayu
|-
|Spittle Bug (Fresh)
|''unknown''
|Catfish
|-
|Spittle Bug (Fresh)
|6:30am, 4:20pm
|Carp, Chromis
|unknown, Sinai
|-
|Spittle Bug (Glazed)
|''3:30am''
|Carp
|-
|White Mealybug(Fresh)
|6:30am
|Carp
|Sinai
|-
|Wooly Aphid (Fresh)
|6pm, 10pm
|River Crab
|-
|Wooly Aphid (Fresh)
|6:30 AM
|Pancake Loach (Fresh)
|}

===Fish Scales===
{| width=75% border="1" class="wikitable sortable"
|-
|align="center" bgcolor="#33CCCC"| '''Scale Color'''
|align="center" bgcolor="#33CCCC"| '''Fish Type'''
|align="center" bgcolor="#33CCCC"| '''Time until Fillet (real time)'''
|-
|Black ||Ayu, Catfish, Perch, River Crab, Spiny Dogfish, White Oniontail, Carp || ?
|-
|Brown ||Catfish || ?
|-
|Crimson ||Catfish || ?
|-
|Dark Gray ||Ayu, Abdju || ?
|-
|Dark Slate Gray ||Ayu, Spiny Dogfish || ?
|-
|Dark Turquoise ||Spiny Dogfish || ?
|-
|Dark Green ||Bay Lobster, Tigerfish ||< 5mins
|-
|Dark Khaki ||White Oniontail || ?
|-
|Dark Olive Green||Carp, White Oniontail || ?
|-
|Deep Sky Blue ||Spiny Dogfish || ?
|-
|Dark Slate Gray ||Abdju, Catfish, White Oniontail || ?
|-
|Dim Gray ||Ayu, Catfish || ?
|-
|Gainsboro ||Perch|| ?
|-
|Golden Rod ||Carp|| ?
|-
|Gray ||Abdju, Ayu, Catfish, Perch || ?
|-
|Light Sea Green ||Phagrus, Spiny Dogfish || ?
|-
|Light Slate Gray ||Ayu || ?
|-
|Lime Green ||Bay Lobster || <10m
|-
|Indian Red ||River Crab || ?
|-
|Indigo ||Pancake Loach || ?
|-
|Maroon ||Perch || ?
|-
|Misty Rose ||Catfish || ?
|-
|Olive Drab ||Carp || ?
|-
|Peru ||White Oniontail, Chromis || ?
|-
|Pink ||Catfish || ?
|-
|Plum ||Ayu || ?
|-
|Rosy Brown ||Catfish|| ?
|-
|Saddle Brown ||River Crab, Chromis || ?
|-
|Salmon ||Ayu || ?
|-
|Sandy Brown ||White Oniontail, Chromis || ?
|-
|Sienna ||Chromis, River Crab, White Oniontail || ?
|-
|Silver ||Ayu || ?
|-
|Teal ||Spiny Dogfish || ?
|-
|Thistle ||Ayu || ?
|-
|}

Ayu fish seem to tend to yield scales in the purplish range. -- Hekatef

Celaeno Obelisk Queue

2010-08-26T04:41:30Z

JudahSavahna: /* Celaeno Desert Obelisk Queue */

=== Celaeno [[Desert_Obelisk|Desert Obelisk]] Queue ===
(1 Egyptian week Pass time, approximately 2 1/2 days)
{|cellspacing="0" border="1" width="400" class="wikitable sortable"
!User !! Height !! Status
|-
| Barek || 7 || Was queue jumped and re-built at 11
|-
| --- || 8-10 || Lost due to queue jumper
|-
| Barek || 11 || Someone built a 24 cubit and disassembled it
|-
| Barek || 25 || Lost due to 39 cubit jumper
|-
| Barek || 40 || Passed
|-
| Zackron || 41 || Built - Year 1, Akhet II-17 http://armeagle.atitd.org/timer.php/35772641/teppy/ATITD5.A/img.png
|-
| Lynnetra || - || Bowing out. Will wait 6 months. Good luck everyone.
|-
| Ori|| 42 || Ready to build
|-
| Ahkten|| 43 || Unknown
|-
| Seachi || 44 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| PetruxIII || 45 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Mariamom || 46 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Eros || 47 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Eve || 48 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| VBDrinken || 49 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Stoneyard || 50 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Larynth || 51 || Ready to build at up to 44
|-
| Nefreten || 52 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Salrilk || 53 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Hitch || 54 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Akebono || 55 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| Muevo || 56 || Collecting mats and waiting
|-
| JudahSavahna || 57 || Collecting mats and waiting

Fishing Guide

2010-08-24T17:07:20Z

JudahSavahna: /* Which lure for which fish */

[[Category:Guides]]
==== General Information ====

You need to find insects to build a lure to fish.

Three skills are necessary:
*[[Fly Fishing]] from the School of Body to build the fly fishing rod (a rod is given to you upon learning the skill
*[[Arthropodology]] from the School of Worship to find insects while doing random activities in game
*[[Fly Tying]] from the School of Worship to build the lure

Making a lure requires an [[Insects|insect]], 2 [[Thread]], and 1 [[Thorn]]. It is built by going to the Skills menu and clicking Fly Tying.

==== Results ====

If you are lucky, and are using an effective combination of lure, location, and time, you will catch a fish, which will immediately go into your inventory.

Failure messages include one of the following (the precise meaning of the various failure messages is still being worked out):
* "No fish bit. Try different lures and locations."
* "You didn't catch anything. Try different lures and locations."
* "You almost caught an odd fish, but you were too late recognizing the bite."
* "You almost caught an unusual fish, but you were not quick enough."

Additionally, there is a small chance of losing your lure with each failure.

==== Skill Costs ====
{| border="1" cellpadding="5"
! Skill !! School !! Degree !! Level to learn !! Cost
|-
| [[Fly Fishing]] || Body || First ||align="right"| 1 || 16 [[Thread]], 1 [[Sharpened Stick]]
|-
|rowspan="4"| [[Arthropodology]] ||rowspan="4"| Worship || First ||align="right"| 2 || 100 [[Dirt]]
|-
| Second ||align="right"| 5 || 200 [[Tadpoles]]
|-
| Third ||align="right"| 8 || 300 [[Beeswax]]
|-
| Fourth ||align="right"| 11 || ??
|-
|rowspan="3"| [[Fly Tying]] ||rowspan="3"| Worship || First ||align="right"| 3 || 100 [[Thread]], 25 [[Thorns]]
|-
| Second ||align="right"| 6 || 7 Nippleworm, 7 Pickel Slug, 7 Leafhopper, 7 Fruit Maggot, 7 Woolly Aphid, 7 Slime Moth, 7 Rose Mite
|-
| Third ||align="right"| 9 || 14 Footworm, 14 Clay Slug, 14 Snowberry Butterfly, 14 Woodmoth, 14 Red Cricket, 14 Honey Fly, 14 Skinlicker
|-
|rowspan="2"| [[Filleting]] ||rowspan="2"| Worship || First ||align="right"| 3 || 7 [[Knife Blade]], 7 [[Fish#Phagrus|Phagrus Meat]], 20 [[Foraging#Common Basil|Common Basil]]
|-
| Second ||align="right"| ? || 3 [[Sharp Edged Blade]], 14 [[Fish#Oxyrynchus|Oxyrynchus Meat]], 25 [[Salt]], 77 [[Glass Jars]]
|}

==== Insects ====
There are rumored to be 49 different species of [[Insects]], split into 7 different classes.

* Ash centipede
* Blister Beetle
* Bloodworm
* Bristleworm
* Clay Slug
* Corkscrew Asp
* Desert Millipede
* Dew Fly
* Feather Midge
* Footworm
* Fruit Maggot
* Glass Worm
* Golden Asp
* Grass Slug
* Hairy Slug
* Honey Fly
* Horned Hookworm
* Leaf Hopper
* Mud Asp
* Needleworm
* Nippleworm
* Orchid Hopper
* Oyster Mite
* Pickel Slug
* Queen Maggot
* Red Cricket
* Ringed Wasp
* Rose Mite
* Ruby Hornborrer
* Salt Mite
* Sand Mite
* Skinlicker
* Slime Moth
* Snowberry Butterfly
* Spittlebug
* Stonefly
* White Mealybug
* White Sawfly
* Woodmoth
* Woolly Aphid

With the [[Arthropodology]] skill, can find insects while: Water mining, picking papyrus, collecting wood, thorns, slate, mud, dirt, harvesting flax, diving for pearls, carving wood, foraging, slaughtering sheep

==== Achievements ====

* Found all 7 Tree Dwelling insects.--merek
* Found all 7 Ground Dwelling insects.--meriamon
* Found all 7 Water Dwelling Insects. -- NecasT

==== Notes ====

Some experiences (from Detour):

I went out fishing with 2 Red cricket (Fresh) lures. Hopped to about 6 different locations and cast about 10 times before losing both lures with no fish caught. I was getting the messages, "No fish bit. Try different lures and locations," or, "No fish bit. You also lost your lure. Try different lures and locations."

Next I used a Woodmoth (Fresh) lure. I caught 3 fish before losing it. They were 7, 6, and 6 deben Malapterurus. I was standing at 777, -1428 at around 6:26 AM game time. I lost the lure on the same cast as catching a fish and didn't get a notice about it. It just disappeared from my inventory. 
(Tanafri: On a successful fish catch, as I understand it, you will always lose the lure.)
(Haraelendil: you don't always loose you lure on a succesfull catch)

Finally, I used a Wooly aphid (Fresh) lure. I got to cast it about 3 times from different locations before I lost it with no fish caught.

Kaayru: I was fishing at a small pond in Sterope (1626 -697) at 1:25pm. Got the message "You almost caught an unusual fish, but you were not quick enough." - Is speed a factor?

tehm: there is also a "You almost caught an odd fish, but were too late recognizing the bite" message. I tried Grilled Garlic (+foc)- no observable change. Next tried Grilled Carrots (+per) and was still getting the message. Maybe "recognizing" means "snaring" rather than "identifying" and Dex or Speed is needed to "recognize"? 
(Tanafri: it's not the *fish* you're not recognizing, but the bite on the line.)

MynxFellswipe: It seems that fish size (in deben) decreases over time. I initially caught a 27db Ayu at 10pm, then gradually smaller (26, 25, 24...) as the hour passed. I had someone else fish next to me after some time. His fish sizes also started around the 26db mark and decreased steadily.

Saluk: I used Orchid Hopper to catch several 1db river crab in one spot (759 -5608) at around 6pm. Always 1db. Switched to Wooly Aphid and immediately caught a 5db river crab. Caught several more 5db with wooly aphid. The lure type definitely affects the size.

Tanafri: Fish has a bulk of 20, regardless of weight.

[[User:Khatzepsut/T5Beta | Khatz Fishing notes]]

=== Which lure for which fish ===

{| width=75% border="1" class="wikitable sortable"
|-
|align="center" bgcolor="#33CCCC"| '''Lure Type'''
|align="center" bgcolor="#33CCCC"| '''Time of Day'''
|align="center" bgcolor="#33CCCC"| '''Fish Caught'''
|-
|Ash Centipede (Fresh)
|8:40 pm
|Catfish
|-
|Blister Beetle (Fresh)
|''unknown''
|Hylian Loach
|-
|Blister Beetle (Fresh)
|8:45 pm
|Ayu
|-
|Bloodworm (Fresh)
|''unknown''
|River Crab
|-
|Clay Slug (Fresh)
|10:30pm
|Catfish, Spiny Dogfish
|-
|Footworm (Fresh)
|''unknown''
|Catfish
|-
|Fruit Maggot (Fresh)
|''unknown''
|White Oniontail
|-
|Glass Worm (Fresh)
|''5:28 AM''
| Pancake Loach, River Crab (1db)
|-
|Glass Worm (Fresh)
|''unknown''
|Catfish
|-
|Glass Worm (Fresh)
|11pm
|River Crab
|-
|Glass Worm (Fresh)
|1:10p
|Tigerfish
|-
|Golden Asp (Fresh)
|''1:55AM, 2:05AM''
|Ayu
|-
|Grass Slug (Fresh)
|''unknown''
|Hylian Loach
|-
|Grass Slug (Fresh)
|''unknown''
|River Crab
|-
|Horned Hookworm (Fresh)
|''9:45pm''
|Tilapia
|-
|Honey Fly (Fresh)
|''unknown''
|Ayu
|-
|Mud Asp (Fresh)
|6:20 AM
|Moonfish
|-
|Mud Asp (Fresh)
|''unknown''
|Catfish
|-
|Mud Asp (Glazed)
|4:15 AM
|Carp, Perch, Chromis
|-
|Nippleworm (Fresh)
|''unknown''
|Catfish
|-
|Nippleworm (Fresh)
|6:47 pm
|Nile Mackerel
|-
|Orchid Hopper (Fresh)
|''6:30 AM''
|Bay Lobster
|-
|Orchid Hopper (Fresh)
|''5:30 PM''
|River Crab 1db
|-
|Orchid Hopper (Glazed)
|''5:30 AM''
|Tilapia
|-
|Orchid Hopper (Fresh)
|''10:11pm''
|River Crab (33 db)
|-
|Oyster Mite (Fresh)
|''unknown''
|Hylian Loach
|-
|Oyster Mite (Fresh)
|''unknown''
|Malapterurus
|-
|Pickle Slug(Fresh)
|''unknown''
|Catfish
|-
|Pickle Slug(Fresh)
|11am
|Catfish
|-
|Pickle Slug(Fresh)
|10:15pm
|Catfish 2db
|-
|Queen Maggot (Fresh)
|''1:40AM''
|Spiky Dogfish
|-
|Ringed Wasp (Fresh)
|''11:13pm''
|River Crab, Catfish, Nile Mackerel
|-
|Sand Mite (Fresh)
|''12:30PM, 12:43PM''
|Tigerfish
|-
|Spittle Bug (Fresh)
|''4:10PM, 7:30 PM, 11:50 PM''
|Ayu
|-
|Spittle Bug (Fresh)
|''unknown''
|Catfish
|-
|Spittle Bug (Glazed)
|''3:30am''
|Carp
|-
|Wooly Aphid (Fresh)
|6pm, 10pm
|River Crab
|-
|Orchid Hopper (Fresh)
|''6:00 PM''
|River Crab 5db
|-
|Orchid Hopper (Fresh)
|''10:00 PM''
|River Crab 22db
|-
|Wooly Aphid (Fresh)
|6:30 AM
|Pancake Loach (Fresh)
|}

===Fish Scales===
{| width=75% border="1" class="wikitable sortable"
|-
|align="center" bgcolor="#33CCCC"| '''Scale Color'''
|align="center" bgcolor="#33CCCC"| '''Fish Type'''
|align="center" bgcolor="#33CCCC"| '''Time until Fillet (real time)'''
|-
|Black ||Ayu, Catfish, River Crab, Spiny Dogfish || ?
|-
|Brown ||Catfish || ?
|-
|Crimson ||Catfish || ?
|-
|Dark Gray ||Ayu || ?
|-
|Dark Slate Gray ||Ayu, Spiny Dogfish || ?
|-
|Dark Turquoise ||Spiny Dogfish || ?
|-
|Dark Green ||Tigerfish ||< 5mins
|-
|Deep Sky Blue ||Spiny Dogfish || ?
|-
|Dim Gray ||Ayu || ?
|-
|Gray ||Ayu, Catfish || ?
|-
|Light Sea Green ||Spiny Dogfish || ?
|-
|Light Slate Gray ||Ayu || ?
|-
|Indian Red ||River Crab || ?
|-
|Indigo ||Pancake Loach || ?
|-
|Plum ||Ayu || ?
|-
|Saddle Brown ||River Crab || ?
|-
|Salmon ||Ayu || ?
|-
|Sienna ||River Crab|| ?
|-
|Silver ||Ayu || ?
|-
|Teal ||Spiny Dogfish || ?
|-
|Thistle ||Ayu || ?
|-
|}

Ayu fish seem to tend to yield scales in the purplish range. -- Hekatef