http://www.atitd.org/wiki/t5w/api.php?action=feedcontributions&feedformat=atom&user=Neurfur 2026-06-03T11:43:32Z User contributions MediaWiki 1.35.2 http://www.atitd.org/wiki/t5w/index.php?title=Users:Neurfur/StatTimer&diff=9158 2010-08-21T21:32:47Z

<p>Neurfur: </p> <hr /> <div>Below is a theory I have put together on how the stat timers work in T5. Feel free to stress test this and prove me wrong.<br /> =Definitions=<br /> <br /> '''Bonus''' - An action that does not take any resources from the pool. There is only 1 bonus action.&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''Pool''' - A buildup of points that can be expended to do an action or multiple actions. Size is fixed at 256.&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''Penalty''' - A period of time where an action requiring a certain stat cannot be performed. That stat is bright red in the skills tab.&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''Cost''' - The cost of an action. Cost is equal to 7 * the timer. Base timer numbers can be found [[Stats#Timers|here]]. Costs never change.&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''Stat''' - The number assigned to a certain stat. Typically 0-7, but can be higher on food.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> =Model=<br /> [[File:Stat_Timer.jpg]]<br /> <br /> =Conclusions=<br /> *You cannot cheat the timer. You must wait an equal amount of time that the actions cost. However...<br /> *The timer can cheat you. If your first action has a high cost, you wait until you almost have your bonus back, then do a small cost action. Any leftover time in the BonusTimer is lost.<br /> *Higher stats do not let you do more actions or queue up more points. It simple refills your Pool and BonusTimer faster. Therefore...<br /> *In burst mode, someone with 0 stats can do just as many actions as someone with high stats. The difference is the higher stat player will be ready to burst actions sooner.<br /> *If you are fully recharged, you are guaranteed 2 actions, regardless of the cost.<br /> *The timer is clientside.<br /> <br /> =Proof=<br /> A series of experiments used to test and understand each part of the model. All tests are performed fully recharged.<br /> &lt;br&gt;<br /> *Stats do not lower the cost.&lt;br&gt;<br /> Stat0 : 60s -&gt; 60s = 23s penalty&lt;br&gt;<br /> Stat2 : 60s -&gt; 60s = 18s penalty&lt;br&gt;<br /> Using a cost reduction model of 7/(7+stat), the anticipated penalty would be 10s.<br /> &lt;br&gt;<br /> *Stats do not increase the pool.&lt;br&gt;<br /> Stat0 : 40s -&gt; 40s = 3s penalty&lt;br&gt;<br /> Stat2 : 40s -&gt; 40s = 3s penalty&lt;br&gt;<br /> If the size of the pool had gone up, the penalty would be lower.<br /> *Timer is clientside.&lt;br&gt;<br /> Stat0 : 60s -&gt; 40s wait -&gt; 60s -&gt;60s = 43s timer.&lt;br&gt;<br /> If the timer was server side, an error of about 10% would be expected (slower timer). A rounding error of a second is acceptable for clientside timing.</div>

Neurfur http://www.atitd.org/wiki/t5w/index.php?title=Users:Neurfur/StatTimer&diff=9157 2010-08-21T21:31:25Z

<p>Neurfur: </p> <hr /> <div>=Definitions=<br /> <br /> '''Bonus''' - An action that does not take any resources from the pool. There is only 1 bonus action.&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''Pool''' - A buildup of points that can be expended to do an action or multiple actions. Size is fixed at 256.&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''Penalty''' - A period of time where an action requiring a certain stat cannot be performed. That stat is bright red in the skills tab.&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''Cost''' - The cost of an action. Cost is equal to 7 * the timer. Base timer numbers can be found [[Stats#Timers|here]]. Costs never change.&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''Stat''' - The number assigned to a certain stat. Typically 0-7, but can be higher on food.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> =Model=<br /> [[File:Stat_Timer.jpg]]<br /> <br /> =Conclusions=<br /> *You cannot cheat the timer. You must wait an equal amount of time that the actions cost. However...<br /> *The timer can cheat you. If your first action has a high cost, you wait until you almost have your bonus back, then do a small cost action. Any leftover time in the BonusTimer is lost.<br /> *Higher stats do not let you do more actions or queue up more points. It simple refills your Pool and BonusTimer faster. Therefore...<br /> *In burst mode, someone with 0 stats can do just as many actions as someone with high stats. The difference is the higher stat player will be ready to burst actions sooner.<br /> *If you are fully recharged, you are guaranteed 2 actions, regardless of the cost.<br /> *The timer is clientside.<br /> <br /> =Proof=<br /> A series of experiments used to test and understand each part of the model. All tests are performed fully recharged.<br /> &lt;br&gt;<br /> *Stats do not lower the cost.&lt;br&gt;<br /> Stat0 : 60s -&gt; 60s = 23s penalty&lt;br&gt;<br /> Stat2 : 60s -&gt; 60s = 18s penalty&lt;br&gt;<br /> Using a cost reduction model of 7/(7+stat), the anticipated penalty would be 10s.<br /> &lt;br&gt;<br /> *Stats do not increase the pool.&lt;br&gt;<br /> Stat0 : 40s -&gt; 40s = 3s penalty&lt;br&gt;<br /> Stat2 : 40s -&gt; 40s = 3s penalty&lt;br&gt;<br /> If the size of the pool had gone up, the penalty would be lower.<br /> *Timer is clientside.&lt;br&gt;<br /> Stat0 : 60s -&gt; 40s wait -&gt; 60s -&gt;60s = 43s timer.&lt;br&gt;<br /> If the timer was server side, an error of about 10% would be expected (slower timer). A rounding error of a second is acceptable for clientside timing.</div>

Neurfur http://www.atitd.org/wiki/t5w/index.php?title=Users:Neurfur/StatTimer&diff=9154 2010-08-21T21:15:14Z

<p>Neurfur: </p> <hr /> <div>=Definitions=<br /> <br /> '''Bonus''' - An action that does not take any resources from the pool. There is only 1 bonus action.&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''Pool''' - A buildup of points that can be expended to do an action or multiple actions. Size is fixed at 256.&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''Penalty''' - A period of time where an action requiring a certain stat cannot be performed. That stat is bright red in the skills tab.&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''Cost''' - The cost of an action. Cost is equal to 7 * the timer. Base timer numbers can be found [[Stats#Timers|here]]. Costs never change.&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''Stat''' - The number assigned to a certain stat. Typically 0-7, but can be higher on food.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> =Model=<br /> [[File:Stat_Timer.jpg]]<br /> <br /> =Conclusions=<br /> *You cannot cheat the timer. You must wait an equal amount of time that the actions cost. However...<br /> *The timer can cheat you. If your first action has a high cost, you wait until you almost have your bonus back, then do a small cost action. Any leftover time in the BonusTimer is lost.<br /> *Higher stats do not let you do more actions or queue up more points. It simple refills your Pool and BonusTimer faster. Therefore...<br /> *In burst mode, someone with 0 stats can do just as many actions as someone with high stats. The difference is the higher stat player will be ready to burst actions sooner.<br /> *If you are fully recharged, you are guaranteed 2 actions, regardless of the cost.<br /> <br /> =Proof=</div>

Neurfur http://www.atitd.org/wiki/t5w/index.php?title=Users:Neurfur/StatTimer&diff=9151 2010-08-21T21:12:39Z

<p>Neurfur: </p> <hr /> <div>=Definitions=<br /> <br /> '''Bonus''' - An action that does not take any resources from the pool. There is only 1 bonus action.&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''Pool''' - A buildup of points that can be expended to do an action or multiple actions. Size is fixed at 256.&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''Penalty''' - A period of time where an action requiring a certain stat cannot be performed. That stat is bright red in the skills tab.&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''Cost''' - The cost of an action. Cost is equal to 7 * the timer. Base timer numbers can be found here. Costs never change.&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''Stat''' - The number assigned to a certain stat. Typically 0-7, but can be higher on food.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> =Model=<br /> [[File:Stat_Timer.jpg]]<br /> <br /> =Conclusions=<br /> *You cannot cheat the timer. You must wait an equal amount of time that the actions cost. However...<br /> *The timer can cheat you. If your first action has a high cost, you wait until you almost have your bonus back, then do a small cost action. Any leftover time in the BonusTimer is lost.<br /> *Higher stats do not let you do more actions or queue up more points. It simple refills your Pool and BonusTimer faster. Therefore...<br /> *In burst mode, someone with 0 stats can do just as many actions as someone with high stats. The difference is the higher stat player will be ready to burst actions sooner.<br /> *If you are fully recharged, you are guaranteed 2 actions, regardless of the cost.<br /> <br /> =Proof=</div>

Neurfur http://www.atitd.org/wiki/t5w/index.php?title=Users:Neurfur/StatTimer&diff=9144 2010-08-21T20:58:07Z

<p>Neurfur: /* Model */</p> <hr /> <div>=Definitions=<br /> <br /> '''Bonus''' - An action that does not take any resources from the pool. There is only 1 bonus action.&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''Pool''' - A buildup of points that can be expended to do an action or multiple actions. Size is fixed at 256.&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''Penalty''' - A period of time where an action requiring a certain stat cannot be performed. That stat is bright red in the skills tab.&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''Cost''' - The cost of an action. Cost is equal to 7 * the timer. Base timer numbers can be found here. Costs never change.&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''Stat''' - The number assigned to a certain stat. Typically 0-7, but can be higher on food.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> =Model=<br /> [[File:Stat_Timer.jpg]]</div>

Neurfur http://www.atitd.org/wiki/t5w/index.php?title=File:Stat_Timer.jpg&diff=9143 2010-08-21T20:57:26Z

<p>Neurfur: A model of the stat timer</p> <hr /> <div>A model of the stat timer</div>

Neurfur http://www.atitd.org/wiki/t5w/index.php?title=Users:Neurfur/StatTimer&diff=9142 2010-08-21T20:55:47Z

<p>Neurfur: Created page with &quot;=Definitions= '''Bonus''' - An action that does not take any resources from the pool. There is only 1 bonus action.&lt;br&gt; '''Pool''' - A buildup of points that can be expended to ...&quot;</p> <hr /> <div>=Definitions=<br /> <br /> '''Bonus''' - An action that does not take any resources from the pool. There is only 1 bonus action.&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''Pool''' - A buildup of points that can be expended to do an action or multiple actions. Size is fixed at 256.&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''Penalty''' - A period of time where an action requiring a certain stat cannot be performed. That stat is bright red in the skills tab.&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''Cost''' - The cost of an action. Cost is equal to 7 * the timer. Base timer numbers can be found here. Costs never change.&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''Stat''' - The number assigned to a certain stat. Typically 0-7, but can be higher on food.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> =Model=<br /> [[File:StatTimer.jpg]]</div>

Neurfur http://www.atitd.org/wiki/t5w/index.php?title=User:Neurfur&diff=9134 2010-08-21T20:40:23Z

<p>Neurfur: </p> <hr /> <div>Hello World<br /> <br /> [[Users:Neurfur/StatTimer|Stat Timer Model]]</div>

Neurfur http://www.atitd.org/wiki/t5w/index.php?title=User:Neurfur&diff=9133 2010-08-21T20:36:18Z

<p>Neurfur: </p> <hr /> <div>Hello World<br /> <br /> Stat Timer Theory</div>

Neurfur http://www.atitd.org/wiki/t5w/index.php?title=User:Neurfur&diff=9132 2010-08-21T20:35:50Z

<p>Neurfur: Created page with &quot;Hello World&quot;</p> <hr /> <div>Hello World</div>

Neurfur