Demipharaoh Debates/2012 03 20 - Revision history

Dreasimy: /* Election 3 Ariella, Chet, Lazybum, oDiS, Sabina March 22 2012 */

2012-03-23T16:58:54Z

Election 3 Ariella, Chet, Lazybum, oDiS, Sabina March 22 2012

Dreasimy: /* March 20, 2012 Debate #2 Chet, oDiS, & Sabina */

2012-03-21T07:16:38Z

March 20, 2012 Debate #2 Chet, oDiS, & Sabina

Dreasimy: /* March 20, 2012 Debate #2 Chet, oDiS, & Sabina */

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March 20, 2012 Debate #2 Chet, oDiS, & Sabina

Dreasimy: /* March 20, 2012 Debate #2 Chet, oDiS, & Sabina */

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March 20, 2012 Debate #2 Chet, oDiS, & Sabina

Dreasimy: /* March 20, 2012 Debate #2 Chet, oDiS, & Sabina */

2012-03-21T07:07:50Z

March 20, 2012 Debate #2 Chet, oDiS, & Sabina

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Dreasimy at 00:54, 21 March 2012

2012-03-21T00:54:47Z

Dreasimy: /* March 20, 2012 Debate #1 Ariella & Lazybum */

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March 20, 2012 Debate #1 Ariella & Lazybum

Dreasimy: /* March 20, 2012 Debate #1 Ariella & Lazybum */

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March 20, 2012 Debate #1 Ariella & Lazybum

Dreasimy: /* March 20, 2012 Debate #1 Ariella & Lazybum */

2012-03-21T00:52:57Z

March 20, 2012 Debate #1 Ariella & Lazybum

Dreasimy: /* March 20, 2012 Debate #1 Ariella & Lazybum */

2012-03-21T00:52:06Z

March 20, 2012 Debate #1 Ariella & Lazybum

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	=Election 3 Ariella, Chet, Lazybum, oDiS, Sabina March 22 2012=		=Election 3 Ariella, Chet, Lazybum, oDiS, Sabina March 22 2012=
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		+	Demi-Pharaoh results from 268 voters:
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		+	<b>F:Ariella (44.32) </b> <br>
		+	M:oDiS (43.22)<br>
		+	F:Chet (34.15)<br>
		+	F:Sabina (28.37)<br>
		+	M:Lazybum (19.84)<br>
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	== March 20, 2012 Debate #1 Ariella & Lazybum ==		== March 20, 2012 Debate #1 Ariella & Lazybum ==

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 <b>Lazybum:</b> As this has happened before in tale3- one person was traveling with explosives to another region and blew up a cs... accident and around the same time another person was going around doing it on purpose
-: Of course, reporting alleged afk macroers to GM's is not only the right thing to do, it is what you are supposed to do.
+<b>oDiS:</b> Of course, reporting alleged afk macroers to GM's is not only the right thing to do, it is what you are supposed to do.
 <b>Sabina:</b> yes, report to a GM first - this game is it hard to work out if someone is macroing or not, some actions dont have any physical movement

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 <b>oDiS:</b> However, I can only think of one example that did not come down to the public, but private chats and the good old egyptian rumor mill, and I came to believe a certain rumor to be true due to a plethura of people stating it to be true. I got called out on it, and I immediately apologzied. Which is the adult thing to do.
-: Well I think I have said a couple of things in the main PBS channel that have been completely wrong, I have admitted it and moved on (and remembered what the right thing was)
+<b>Sabina:</b> Well I think I have said a couple of things in the main PBS channel that have been completely wrong, I have admitted it and moved on (and remembered what the right thing was)
-OH, dear, I sure screwed that up. What can I do to make it right?
+<b>Chet:</b> OH, dear, I sure screwed that up. What can I do to make it right?
 Dreasimy: Thank you all

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 Dreasimy: When we have questions for specific candidates I will then also offer a related but more general version of that question to the other candidates afterwards. First up is an anonymous question for oDiS
-Dreasimy: Anonymous: Question for <b>oDiS:</b> It seems like you always have an explination for the way something works, even when it becomes apparent that you don't really have the proper information. Can you please give an example where, in a public discussion, when confronted with information that proved you didn't know what you were talking about, that you either admitted you were wrong, or that you were just speculting? And if not, why not?
+Dreasimy: Anonymous: Question for oDiS: It seems like you always have an explination for the way something works, even when it becomes apparent that you don't really have the proper information. Can you please give an example where, in a public discussion, when confronted with information that proved you didn't know what you were talking about, that you either admitted you were wrong, or that you were just speculting? And if not, why not?
 Dreasimy: I'd like to ask the other candidates a generalized version of this question: Can you explain how you handle a situation when it becomes clear, publicly, that you are wrong?
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 Dreasimy: Here's a question submitted by one of our candidates, I checked with the committee and it's within the rules
-Dreasimy: <b>Sabina:</b> given that a large percentage of people playing this game speak english, how fair are is this test on non english speakers in the game and should DPs be selected with timezones in mind - 24/7 DP coverage of game?
+Dreasimy: Sabina: given that a large percentage of people playing this game speak english, how fair are is this test on non english speakers in the game and should DPs be selected with timezones in mind - 24/7 DP coverage of game?
 <b>Sabina:</b> FYI I would trust this person with my credit card, but i will still change my password if it is required
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 Dreasimy: Historically when non-English speaking people have made it to the final ballot they have participated in the debates with a translator but that is not necessarily true in the lower rounds
--03-21 05:57:12 	<b>Sabina:</b> I don think people should be selected just because they are in a certain timezone, although if they were all in the east coast of the US that could be a little awkward at times
 <b>oDiS:</b> With the majority of the populous being English speaking, you'd be wrong to even suggest there isn't a disadvantage to the nonfluent English speakers. I do hope one day this does not have to be the case. Just as we currently have certain GM's assigned to certain langueage communities, I hope one day that can happen with DP. Though until that day those GM's are such great help in translations. I thank them every time I send them a chat for accurate translations. They are very patient. :)
-Dreasimy: Anonymous: Question for <b>oDiS:</b> You made a statement in PBS that the mods would not be posting on a certian subject, when the mod who actually had control of the board at the time in fact appeared to have no intention of censoring the ongoing discussion (which resulted in fanned, not quenched, flames.) PBS is a public service, and our best and loudest outlet for free speech and Egypt-wide discussion. Why do you favor censoring it?
+Dreasimy: Anonymous: Question for oDiS: You made a statement in PBS that the mods would not be posting on a certian subject, when the mod who actually had control of the board at the time in fact appeared to have no intention of censoring the ongoing discussion (which resulted in fanned, not quenched, flames.) PBS is a public service, and our best and loudest outlet for free speech and Egypt-wide discussion. Why do you favor censoring it?
 Dreasimy: For the other candidates: Often disagreements in ATITD come from miscommunication, miscommunication can be battled by discussion but sometimes discussion can become heated. Are you in favor of free speech? Do you have an opinion on whether or not discussion should be censored when it gets heated (but not offensive)?

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	Nchanter: Follow up to Lazybum... I'm sorry, did you just say that you think it's ok to Lie to people to make them think you're their friend, just to resolve a conflict? Or did I read that wrong. If I read that wrong, can you please rephrase?		Nchanter: Follow up to Lazybum... I'm sorry, did you just say that you think it's ok to Lie to people to make them think you're their friend, just to resolve a conflict? Or did I read that wrong. If I read that wrong, can you please rephrase?
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	<b>Lazybum:</b> Ariella. While I think the person who asked that question was the reporter in the back row, 3rd to the right with the blue shirt on. I have played with you since we both began and even before you were a dp I have noticed your personal prefrence to stay out of Personal conflicts between individuals. It just really isnt you . But I have noticed you have been Involved in problematic situations that would spread throughout egypt if not dealt with. and for that I applaud you... I neither would want to deal with personal problems of couple arguing who should get what over a divorce.		<b>Lazybum:</b> Ariella. While I think the person who asked that question was the reporter in the back row, 3rd to the right with the blue shirt on. I have played with you since we both began and even before you were a dp I have noticed your personal prefrence to stay out of Personal conflicts between individuals. It just really isnt you . But I have noticed you have been Involved in problematic situations that would spread throughout egypt if not dealt with. and for that I applaud you... I neither would want to deal with personal problems of couple arguing who should get what over a divorce.

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	<b>Ariella:</b> What it shouldn't be? A promotion of narcissim. A way to have power over other players. But honestly, most DPs are good, helpful players and there's so many that would be that way. We do go through levels that help get good candidates.		<b>Ariella:</b> What it shouldn't be? A promotion of narcissim. A way to have power over other players. But honestly, most DPs are good, helpful players and there's so many that would be that way. We do go through levels that help get good candidates.
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	<b>Lazybum:</b> I think a DP should lead by example. and while we have had some good DP's and some mediocore ones in this tale and tales previous. I dont believe there has ever been a fantastic one. Why would one vote for someone other than the proven ability of thier leadership abilities. I belive that egypt needa a DP that will use his powers to run the people instead of gently hovering over them . We need a DP that will get people moving and working together for the good of all egypt.		<b>Lazybum:</b> I think a DP should lead by example. and while we have had some good DP's and some mediocore ones in this tale and tales previous. I dont believe there has ever been a fantastic one. Why would one vote for someone other than the proven ability of thier leadership abilities. I belive that egypt needa a DP that will use his powers to run the people instead of gently hovering over them . We need a DP that will get people moving and working together for the good of all egypt.

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 Dreasimy: Thank you both for your thoughtful answers, moving on now
-Dreasimy: Nchanter: Question for <b>Ariella:</b> You encouraged people to start donating their Sea Lily Bulbs for Crossbreeding to 7L research, after a substantial effort had already been made and donated to OE. This rift in donations is delaying the opening of Crossbreeding for everyone to utilize. Why did you choose to actively encourage donations in a 2nd region instead of working with others in such a way to make it available to everyone sooner?
+Dreasimy: Nchanter: Question for Ariella: You encouraged people to start donating their Sea Lily Bulbs for Crossbreeding to 7L research, after a substantial effort had already been made and donated to OE. This rift in donations is delaying the opening of Crossbreeding for everyone to utilize. Why did you choose to actively encourage donations in a 2nd region instead of working with others in such a way to make it available to everyone sooner?
 Dreasimy: And I would like to reframe that topic to include Lazybum on it, Lazybum, do you have anything you would like to say on the subject of how you decide where to donate your research materials?
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 <b>Lazybum:</b> Sorry, My meditation was broken and lost my connection from this realm.... So yes it is true I Come from a place far away and am just here to abduct your sheep... I donate my mats to My home region/s.
-Dreasimy: Anonymous: To <b>Lazybum:</b> in previous tellings, you have been known to take the summer off from playing ATITD. Will this be the case during this tale? Will you actually be available to perform your duties on a consistent basis?
+Dreasimy: Anonymous: To Lazybum: in previous tellings, you have been known to take the summer off from playing ATITD. Will this be the case during this tale? Will you actually be available to perform your duties on a consistent basis?
 Dreasimy: Reframed version of this question that all candidates can answer! :D DPs notoriously catch DP disease after becoming DP, disappearing for long periods at a time... it's very mysterious, what do you think causes this condition? Do you feel you are immune? How so?
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 <b>Lazybum:</b> i will too give ponies .... you calling me a liar. YOYO"s know how to have ponies
--03-21 00:23:23 	<b>Ariella:</b> Then someone has been withholding ponies? You know blondie will not like that...
 <b>Lazybum:</b> all you have to do is msg me for a pony if i win and ill put it where you want it.

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 Dreasimy: We received a question from an anonymous listener, specifically for Ariella, which I am going to follow up with a related, more general question that both candidates can answer:
-Dreasimy: Anonymous: For <b>Ariella:</b> You were a DP in the past (at least T4) and it appeared that you never were willing to step into the conflicts which DP's are supposed to help mediate. Why should you be elected again if you've demonstrated an unwillingness to do the job (as the Community has defined the job)?
+Dreasimy: Anonymous: For Ariella: You were a DP in the past (at least T4) and it appeared that you never were willing to step into the conflicts which DP's are supposed to help mediate. Why should you be elected again if you've demonstrated an unwillingness to do the job (as the Community has defined the job)?
 Dreasimy: Both candidates: Have you been involved in resolving conflicts in ATITD and/or real life? Can you give any specific examples of how you have helped mediate a situation between two parties who could not see eye to eye?
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 Dreasimy: We have another listener question, for a specific candidate (Lazybum) but again Ill follow up with a more general question that Ariella can answer as well.
-Dreasimy: Nchanter: Question for <b>Lazybum:</b> you are VERY vocal about your anti-macro stance, and give the impression that anyone who macros, afk macros (which is most assuredly not the case for the majority of egyptians that use macros). Will you promise, right now, logged for everyone to see, that you will not ban anyone that you believe might be AFK macroing, and instead will do the proper thing, and report them to a GM?
+Dreasimy: Nchanter: Question for Lazybum: you are VERY vocal about your anti-macro stance, and give the impression that anyone who macros, afk macros (which is most assuredly not the case for the majority of egyptians that use macros). Will you promise, right now, logged for everyone to see, that you will not ban anyone that you believe might be AFK macroing, and instead will do the proper thing, and report them to a GM?
 Dreasimy: Although that question was directly for Lazybum due to his specific concern about the issue. I'd like Ariella to chime in on the topic as well. Ariella do you concur that the proper thing for everyone, including DPs to do when they suspect someone might be AFK macroing is to report them to a GM?