Demipharaoh Debates/2012 04 20 - Revision history

Dreasimy: /* April 17, 2012 Debate #1 Chet, McArine, Zhukuram */

2012-04-18T19:36:31Z

April 17, 2012 Debate #1 Chet, McArine, Zhukuram

Dreasimy at 19:04, 18 April 2012

2012-04-18T19:04:08Z

Dreasimy at 19:02, 18 April 2012

2012-04-18T19:02:28Z

Dreasimy: /* April 17, 2012 Debate #2 Dreasimy & Osidion */

2012-04-18T19:01:47Z

April 17, 2012 Debate #2 Dreasimy & Osidion

Dreasimy: /* April 17, 2012 Debate #2 Dreasimy & Osidion */

2012-04-18T19:01:08Z

April 17, 2012 Debate #2 Dreasimy & Osidion

Dreasimy: /* April 17, 2012 Debate #2 Dreasimy & Osidion */

2012-04-18T18:59:49Z

April 17, 2012 Debate #2 Dreasimy & Osidion

Dreasimy: /* April 17, 2012 Debate #1 Chet, McArine, Zhukuram */

2012-04-18T18:58:51Z

April 17, 2012 Debate #1 Chet, McArine, Zhukuram

Dreasimy at 18:55, 18 April 2012

2012-04-18T18:55:43Z

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Dreasimy at 17:22, 16 April 2012

2012-04-16T17:22:08Z

Dreasimy at 03:26, 15 April 2012

2012-04-15T03:26:36Z

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	<b>McArine:</b> No, not atm. Last tale when I was a DP, I didn't give out my password to get help with festivals. And atm. I don't plan on doing it this tale.		<b>McArine:</b> No, not atm. Last tale when I was a DP, I didn't give out my password to get help with festivals. And atm. I don't plan on doing it this tale.
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	LuluDivine: If you were not in the election and forced to vote, which candidate would you vote for?		LuluDivine: If you were not in the election and forced to vote, which candidate would you vote for?

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−	~~Debate Schedule:<br>~~
−	~~Debate #1 Tuesday April 17th 16:00 UTC/GMT Chet, McArine, Zhukuram<br>~~
−	~~and 8 hours later....<br>~~
−	~~Debate #2 Wednesday April 18th 00:00 UTC/GMT Dreasimy, Osidion<br>~~
−	~~Moderator for both debates: LuluDivine<br>~~
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 <b>Osidion:</b> Ninjas, because they are stealthy and because i like Ninjas ;P
 LuluDivine: How do you feel about the fact that there is no Akhet wheat, and how this makes certain worship tests more difficult?
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 <b>Osidion:</b> This goes back to a previous question about what i would change if i could, my answer is.. I don't particulary like it however with out Teppy or another Dev change/fix it there is not much that can be done :|
 silver: why do we call "Q&A" sessions debates?

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 <b>Osidion:</b> Well being as the AGA was written for DP's to start an instant ballot, is'nt that a meaningful role for a DP? Hopefully if you have made DP then you already have Egypts trust :D
-LuluDivine: Follow up question for <b>Osidion:</b> Are you suggesting that the primary role of the DP is now to submit AGA ballots? Or do you see the DP role as larger than that?
+LuluDivine: Follow up question for Osidion: Are you suggesting that the primary role of the DP is now to submit AGA ballots? Or do you see the DP role as larger than that?
 <b>Dreasimy:</b> Definitely there is a role for the DP. There are good and specific conditions for AGA and also a need for a DP who is able to step in when there is immediate damage or harm occurring that would require a decision in the moment and not the period of time even the quickened AGA ballots take.
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 <b>Dreasimy:</b> Well the most obvious form of griefing is someone like Geodude who goes around actually identifying their actions as griefing with statements like, If you don't do X I will do Y to your camp. I think at one point he even stated in regional or IRC or both that he was griefing, on purpose. I would concur that a lot of greifing has to do sometimes not so much with their actions but with the intent behind their actions and that can often be determined through their own words.
--04-18 00:46:34 	LuluDivine: We have a follow up question/comment re: reversing of bans.
+LuluDivine: We have a follow up question/comment re: reversing of bans.
 Nchanter: Osidion, DP bans are *not* reversable. While Egypt did choose to strip the powers of a DP, Teppy was very clear that the Bans could not be reversed.
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 LuluDivine: Discussions about whether there can or should be pop ups for items given to you can take place on PBS.
-LuluDivine: Anonymous follow up to <b>Osidion:</b> Not everyone has access to grilled peppers, or even pepper seeds. Are you saying that your response to those people would be 'oh well, your problem, just deal with it'?
+LuluDivine: Anonymous follow up to Osidion: Not everyone has access to grilled peppers, or even pepper seeds. Are you saying that your response to those people would be 'oh well, your problem, just deal with it'?
 <b>Dreasimy:</b> I too think it is pretty simple to drop bricks if handed them. I am not sure that it requires DP intervention. However, *if* in this grand hypothetical it is constantly happening and it is seriously impeding people's play, and the person in question has been asked not to do it by a DP and warned, then I would probably have to do a temp ban to have them think about if it is really worth it
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 <b>Osidion:</b> LOL
--04-18 01:46:47 	<b>Dreasimy:</b> Hey he copied off someone else's paper!
 Archipelago: lol

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 <b>Dreasimy:</b> My personal take on this hypothetical situation if it happened in front of my face right *now* would be that I'd chat the person and probably ultimately say that I would suggest they not do the brick thing as the spirit of the game mechanics for sand were changed to avoid just this kind of griefing. So based on the spirit of that I would say it is out of bounds play (in fact so much so it might even go to GMs but who knows if they agree) but ...
--04-18 01:29:31 	<b>Dreasimy:</b> on the incense, even if it is done intentionally for an advantage in the test and to disadvantage others, I think in the end it is merely a competitive act, much like overbuilding in obelisk queues. The act in and of itself does not prevent anyone from passing the test, or even carrying on with that phoenix, it just makes it more difficult and I think that the person who uses the tactics will then have to live with the consequences of that moving forward and that is how our society handles this naturally
 <b>Dreasimy:</b> The consequences would likely be that people in the community would probably shun them on some level I expect, but I guess they would expect that :D
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 <b>Osidion:</b> I don't consider that a major grief as you "could" just drop the bricks and eat a grilled pepper to raise str back up some. That is how i would suggest to someone.
-Lazybum: To <b>Dreasimy:</b> So you would rather have a gm handle the situation rather than do it yourself. as part of it is skillfulplay with no reason for a gm to get involved is it is not thier grounds. Dp's get the power for a reason and it is to handle situations like this directly. GM's on the other hand are here to keep the CoC and fix /investigate bugs.
+Lazybum: To Dreasimy: So you would rather have a gm handle the situation rather than do it yourself. as part of it is skillfulplay with no reason for a gm to get involved is it is not thier grounds. Dp's get the power for a reason and it is to handle situations like this directly. GM's on the other hand are here to keep the CoC and fix /investigate bugs.
 <b>Osidion:</b> or what i would suggest even*

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 <b>McArine:</b> I hadn't noticed that we had only voted girls in, and I don't think is has, or that it has become. I guess it's another reason for me to become a DP ;-)
-Skyfeather: Follow-up from earlier question: Zhukurum, since you think it's griefing, how would you have handled the situation. For <b>McArine:</b> A perma-ban seems like a rather severe step for a first infraction, are there any other, lesser punishments you might try first?
+Skyfeather: Follow-up from earlier question: Zhukurum, since you think it's griefing, how would you have handled the situation. For McArine: A perma-ban seems like a rather severe step for a first infraction, are there any other, lesser punishments you might try first?
 LuluDivine: Skyfeather's question is a follow up to the phoenix race/incense question from before.

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-<b>Tentative</b> Debate Schedule:<br>
+Debate Schedule:<br>
 Debate #1 Tuesday April 17th 16:00 UTC/GMT Chet, McArine, Zhukuram<br>
 and 8 hours later....<br>
 Debate #2 Wednesday April 18th 00:00 UTC/GMT Dreasimy, Osidion<br>
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