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Jaylenaeybarre: Created page with "I've struggled a lot with the making of gearboxes. I did find a guide from T3 (http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale3/Users/EldradUlthran/Gearbox_Guide) and some explanations here: http..."

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Created page with "I've struggled a lot with the making of gearboxes. I did find a guide from T3 (http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale3/Users/EldradUlthran/Gearbox_Guide) and some explanations here: http..."

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I've struggled a lot with the making of gearboxes. I did find a guide from T3 (http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale3/Users/EldradUlthran/Gearbox_Guide) and some explanations here: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Gearbox_Design_Guide and http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Gearbox.

Still I kept having problems and mostly tried them on a trial/error basis, which most of the times got me frustated :) so eventually, when I did manage to make them, I tried to write this guide.

== Step 1 - What do you need ==
* [[Gearbox Assembly Table]]
* [[Gearbox design]] tech
* a stash of [[Small Gears]], [[Medium Gears]], [[Large Gears]]
* wikipage for the gear ratio's: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Gearbox_Ratios or you can use: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Tamutnefret_Gearbox_Ratios
* patience :)

== Step 2 - Different gearpairs ==
*spacer, used to start a new layer (no cost) - to represent it in the photo's I use: 1 ::[IMG]http://i40.tinypic.com/91mpu0.jpg[/IMG]
*one step (photo) 3/3 only allows to move in a +-shape (cost=small gears):: [IMG]http://i42.tinypic.com/2u6jmhk.jpg[/IMG]
*diagonal (photo) 4/4 cheap :: [IMG]http://i40.tinypic.com/jqqbkg.jpg[/IMG]
* 3/5, 5/3 makes a large change in ratio)(cost= medium gears):: [IMG]http://i44.tinypic.com/2lc9tz6.jpg[/IMG]
*two steps up or sideways 5/6, 6/5, 4/7, 7/4 (makes smaller changes in ratio)(cost when using 7gear: large gears) :: [IMG]http://i43.tinypic.com/90btw2.jpg[/IMG]
*knight's move 6/6, 5/7, 7/5 ::[IMG]http://i44.tinypic.com/a4ape.jpg[/IMG]]

**4/4 is much cheaper then 6/6 , although with 6/6 you move over large distances
**3/3, 4/4, 6/6 makes no change in ratio (photo still to come)
**3/5, 5/6, 4/7 makes the ratio go down :: [IMG]http://i40.tinypic.com/35bcl7l.jpg[/IMG]
**5/3, 6/5, 7/4, 7/5 makes the ratio go up :: [IMG]http://i42.tinypic.com/2r545tw.jpg[/IMG]

== Step 3 - Useful to know ==
*you always start at 1A, ratio 100ù
*8 rows, 8 columns
*you always need to end at row 8
*only 30 shafts can be used - = including spacers
*no more then 3 layers/levels are possible
*always put the smallest gear on the bottom, ex: spacer, 3-gear, 5-gear on top of each other, not spacer, 5-gear, 3-gear - <u>it seems it is possible to put a small gear on top of a large gear</u>, but depending on your next move, you can get the message that they are too close to each other: see photo's
[IMG]http://i39.tinypic.com/2mwxlwy.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i42.tinypic.com/2z87w9y.jpg[/IMG]
*only 3/3, 4/4, 3/5, 5/3, 5/6, 6/5, 6/6, 4/7, 7/4, 5/7, 7/5 pairs can be used

== Step 4 - Example of a 1-output gearbox ==
*used for cartouche and the 1st box used in [[Stone Quarry]]
*let's make gearbox: D160-175
** check the ratiopage: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Gearbox_Ratios or you can use: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Tamutnefret_Gearbox_Ratios
**here we see the possible ratios: photo below: black square
**we need the one with the lowest cost: photo below:red square

[IMG]http://i42.tinypic.com/nv3w9w.jpg[/IMG]

** photo's from the board using the cheap 4/4 gears

[IMG]http://i40.tinypic.com/2m3ic8o.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i43.tinypic.com/a2671j.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i39.tinypic.com/2wbydmt.jpg[/IMG]

** photo's from the board using the expensive 6/6 gears - but since we need to make: D160-175 we have to put some 4-gears under the 6-gears
[IMG]http://i39.tinypic.com/4v5x89.jpg[/IMG]

== Step 5 - Example of a 2-output gearbox ==
*used for [[Springbox]], and the 2nd gearbox in [[Stone Quarry]]
*let's make gearbox: B100-125 D320-382
**check the ratiopage: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Gearbox_Ratios or you can use: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Tamutnefret_Gearbox_Ratios
**look for ratio's that are used for both
**here we see the possible ratios: photo (black square)
**start looking for shared ratio's, preferably at the start!!! then possibly with lowest cost, if there is still choice - photo: red square

[IMG]http://i42.tinypic.com/25q9cgh.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i41.tinypic.com/qxui5l.jpg[/IMG]

** photo's from the board

[IMG]http://i40.tinypic.com/2md52td.jpg[/IMG]

== Step 6 - Example of a 3-output gearbox ==
*used for [[Test of Dancing Waters]], the dancing waters mechanism
*let's make gearbox: B240-280 E175-205 H322-375
**check the ratiopage: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Gearbox_Ratios or you can use: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Tamutnefret_Gearbox_Ratios
**look for ratio's that are used for all 3 of them
**here we see the possible ratios: photo (black square)
**we need the ones that are shared by all 3 and then if there is still choice, the lowest cost possible

** [IMG]http://i39.tinypic.com/rwup7b.jpg[/IMG]

** [IMG]http://i41.tinypic.com/nz10kx.jpg[/IMG]

== Step 7 - Final ==
*you'll get a message if your gearbox is not good
**either your gears don't mesh :: [IMG]http://i42.tinypic.com/ehkj1u.jpg[/IMG]
**either you don't have an output in row 8 :: [IMG]http://i40.tinypic.com/14txqf.jpg[/IMG]
**either you have used up your 30 shafts
*also on top of your board you'll see if your gearbox has the correct ratio
*when your gearbox is ok, then you'll get a popup window: "do you want to make this gearbox .....?"

I hope this guide makes making gearboxes a bit more easier.

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 **<u>LOOK FOR RATIO'S THAT ARE USED FOR BOTH!!!</u>
 **here we see the possible ratios: photo (black square)
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 *let's make gearbox: B240-280  E175-205   H322-375
 **check the ratiopage: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Gearbox_Ratios or you can use: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Tamutnefret_Gearbox_Ratios
-**<u>LOOK FOR RATIO'S THAT ARE USED FOR BOTH!!!</u>
+**<u>LOOK FOR RATIO'S THAT ARE USED FOR ALL 3 OF THEM!!!</u>
 **here we see the possible ratios: photo (black square)
 **we need the ones that are shared by all 3 and then if there is still choice, the lowest cost possible

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-<span style="color: Red"> I've struggled a lot with the making of gearboxes. I did find a guide from T3 (http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale3/Users/EldradUlthran/Gearbox_Guide) and some explanations here: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Gearbox_Design_Guide and http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Gearbox.
+I've struggled a lot with the making of gearboxes. I did find a guide from T3 (http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale3/Users/EldradUlthran/Gearbox_Guide) and some explanations here: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Gearbox_Design_Guide and http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Gearbox.
 Still I kept having problems and mostly tried them on a trial/error basis, which most of the times got me frustated :) so eventually, when I did manage to make them, I tried to write this guide.
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 I hope this guide makes making gearboxes a bit more easier.