T7 Improvement Ideas - Revision history

Tribisha: /* Interface Improvements */

2015-08-29T06:53:19Z

Interface Improvements

Morendo: /* Long-Term Feature Requests */

2015-08-16T22:53:26Z

Long-Term Feature Requests

Samisotet: /* Monuments */

2015-08-11T16:29:18Z

Monuments

Samisotet: /* Monuments */

2015-08-11T16:27:53Z

Monuments

Samisotet: /* Monuments */

2015-08-11T16:22:54Z

Monuments

Samisotet: /* Monuments */

2015-08-11T16:21:55Z

Monuments

Samisotet: /* Monuments */ Honor characters for their true accomplisments

2015-08-11T16:20:59Z

Monuments: Honor characters for their true accomplisments

Darkfyre: /* Feature Requests */

2015-08-10T20:50:23Z

Feature Requests

Yendor: /* Leavened Bread */

2015-08-02T23:03:04Z

Leavened Bread

Blueshift: /* Tests */

2015-07-30T15:59:47Z

Tests

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 *Please fix the "Edit my info" text box so that up/down arrows don't clear the text from the box.  And a personal notepad for private notes would good to have as well. [[User:Darkfyre|Darkfyre]]
 * Inventory Sub-category menu for "Anvil Tools", including the four items: Ball Peen, Wide Chisel, Shaping, and Round. ~ Koinif 7/4/2015
 == Trading Posts ==

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	I think we're missing out on a huge market of gamers by not using Facebook / Twitter to let players know about goings on in the game. Keeping our current player base in touch with the game, maintaining contact with those who leave/break from the game, and bringing in new players via post sharing would do great things for the game. We really need an official Facebook page (or recover the existing one: https://www.facebook.com/pages/A-Tale-in-the-Desert/112589482087005?rf=114593695223307#) and get the word out. Happy players bring in more new people than any other form of advertising. -- [[User:Darkfyre\|Darkfyre]] Aug 11 2014		I think we're missing out on a huge market of gamers by not using Facebook / Twitter to let players know about goings on in the game. Keeping our current player base in touch with the game, maintaining contact with those who leave/break from the game, and bringing in new players via post sharing would do great things for the game. We really need an official Facebook page (or recover the existing one: https://www.facebook.com/pages/A-Tale-in-the-Desert/112589482087005?rf=114593695223307#) and get the word out. Happy players bring in more new people than any other form of advertising. -- [[User:Darkfyre\|Darkfyre]] Aug 11 2014
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		+	== Ice and Dairy ==
		+	Suggested by [[User:Morendo\|Morendo]]<br>
		+	<br>
		+	'''Ice should be a seasonal item, which has powerful uses but is limited by one's ability to both preserve it during the off seasons and use it sparingly to avoid running out.'''
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		+	'''Ice Discovery:'''
		+	* Natural Ice could be discovered rarely through digs on high mountain tops, similar to bauxite/gypsum, or randomly appearing ice/snow on mountain peaks seasonally, in one or two of our Egypt seasons.
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		+	* Ice could be found in the winter storms that bring presents each year. (Compressed snow)
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		+	* Ice could be pulled rarely from "Test of the Deep Mine" as a reward.
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		+	'''Ice Creation:'''
		+	* Ice could be created in any number of ways, suggestions include:
		+	** Placing jugs of water deep underground until they freeze.
		+	** Pouring water into mine shafts (Possibly through "Test of the Deep Mine" to increase the chance of gaining ice.
		+	** Leaving water on mountaintops in one or two colder seasons of the year which would freeze after time.
		+	** Taking water to great altitudes through the use of airships.
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		+	'''Ice Storage:''' It's hot in the day in Egypt, and cooler at night. Ice in inventory would always be melting, faster during the day and slower at night. (Making it better to harvest and transport ice at night)
		+	* '''Ice Cellars:'''
		+	** Ice melt would be kept to a minimum if buried deep in the ground in straw/cloth lined containers. (Or Sawdust, as suggested above by Tallow) Could include upgrades to use different metals for containers to further lengthen the duration ice can be stored. Each time an Ice Cellar is opened, some amount of ice melts (Similar to losing Bees when checking for honey) with higher ice melt during the day. Or, the rate of ice melt within the cellar resets to whatever time of day the cellar was opened, and gradually slowing after the cellar is sealed again. This would encourage the use of 2 or more cellars, one for long term ice storage and another for more frequent opening/use.
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		+	* '''Ice usage:'''
		+	** Ice Cellars/Boxes could be used to extend the life of drinkable beer.
		+	** A portable bucket of Ice could be used to extend the life of raw fish before they are filleted.
		+	** Refrigeration could be used to preserve bottled/boxed lunches, possibly requiring a re-heat in a kitchen or bonfire/firepit before becoming edible. Preserved and re-heated food would have lower duration and stats.
		+	** Refrigeration should be required to keep Dairy Products fresh. (See Below - Proposed Changes to Animal Milks)
		+	** Ice could be used in combination with salt to make '''Ice Cream'''.
		+	*** Ice Cream could use a combination of milks/creams, sweetened and flavored with honey, fruit, herbs such as mints/cinnamon/licorice, coconut, cocoa, and other existing or new items.
		+	** Grapes could be frozen in Ice Cellars to allow the creation of more concentrated, sweeter '''Ice Wines'''.
		+	<BR>
		+	'''Proposed changes to Animal Milks:'''
		+
		+	* Camel and potentially other animal milks would have a limited shelf life before they begin to sour, requiring refrigeration.
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		+	* Milk could be processed into various other dairy products and byproducts: Cream, Cheeses, Butters, Whey, etc.
		+	** Milk serparates to Milk and Cream. Cream separates into Butter and Whey. Soured Milk could be processed in beer kettles in specific microbe spots to create cheese curd and Whey. Whey and Cheese Curd are used to create various cheeses.
		+	** Butter could be salted or unsalted, flavored with herbs such as chives/Rosemary, or vegetables such as garlic.
		+	** Cheeses could be aged and/or smoked.
		+	** Milk and Cream could be frozen with Ice and Salt and flavored with honey, fruit, herbs such as mints/cinnamon/licorice, coconut, cocoa, and other existing or new items to create Ice Cream (short shelf life, possibly extended through storage in Ice Cellar)
		+	** All dairy products could be used as cooking ingredients, test requirements, or trail food similar to Grilled food.

	=Feature Requests=		=Feature Requests=

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 Then there's the flip side of this issue: Players who are new to the tale, like me, who have contributed little or nothing to the community or the telling itself, being practically given passages just to ensure that enough bodies qualify for a spot on the monument so the monument can actually be completed. That denigrates the accomplishments earned by others who *have* given to the community, who *have* worked their tails off to accomplish what they've accomplished. Please don't misunderstand me here - I totally and completely appreciate the help and support I personally have received, and the help given to other new players. Helping each other is a wonderful thing! I've learned much, and gotten to feel like a part of the community through it all. And I understand *why* the player base is forced into that behavior, it's a natural response to the current monument rules. It also leads new players, who aren't vested in the tale, to think "you should help me advance because you need me for your monument". I'd like to see all that changed. If the sheer numbers of characters needed to fulfill the body count requirements was predicated on some percentage of the *current* population, seems like that would reduce the need of a last minute scramble to pass characters on discipline principles at the cost of the integrity of the game. At least in my mind. Players could still help others achieve high standing (pass a lot of tests) if they want to, but it wouldn't be required, the way it appears to be required currently.
-To summarize, the two changes I'd like to see are: 1) Honor all characters on the monuments for their actual accomplishments. If we had 6 Oracles in a discipline, I personally want to see the names of all 6 under that heading, and so on down the line. If the programming is such that a monument requires x-number of characters of each level, have that done internally and invisibly, rather than forcing characters to be honored at levels below their actual accomplishments. 2) Do something to reduce the last-minute push to get characters - especially brand new characters - passing tests beyond their true ability and understanding, and in the most minimal way - just to guarantee that a monument can be completed. I suggested a percentage of current population, but that's just a suggestion. [[User: Samisotet|Samisotet]])
+To summarize, the two changes I'd like to see are: 1) Honor all characters on the monuments for their actual accomplishments. If we had 6 Oracles in a discipline, I personally want to see the names of all 6 under that heading, and so on down the line. If the programming is such that a monument requires x-number of characters of each level, have that done internally and invisibly, rather than forcing characters to be honored at levels below their actual accomplishments. 2) Do something to reduce the last-minute push to get characters - especially brand new characters - passing tests beyond their true ability and understanding, and in the most minimal way - just to guarantee that a monument can be completed. I suggested a percentage of current population, but that's just a suggestion. [[User: Samisotet|Samisotet]] 9:28, 11 August 2015 (PDT)
 == Persistent World ==

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 Then there's the flip side of this issue: Players who are new to the tale, like me, who have contributed little or nothing to the community or the telling itself, being practically given passages just to ensure that enough bodies qualify for a spot on the monument so the monument can actually be completed. That denigrates the accomplishments earned by others who *have* given to the community, who *have* worked their tails off to accomplish what they've accomplished. Please don't misunderstand me here - I totally and completely appreciate the help and support I personally have received, and the help given to other new players. Helping each other is a wonderful thing! I've learned much, and gotten to feel like a part of the community through it all. And I understand *why* the player base is forced into that behavior, it's a natural response to the current monument rules. It also leads new players, who aren't vested in the tale, to think "you should help me advance because you need me for your monument". I'd like to see all that changed. If the sheer numbers of characters needed to fulfill the body count requirements was predicated on some percentage of the *current* population, seems like that would reduce the need of a last minute scramble to pass characters on discipline principles at the cost of the integrity of the game. At least in my mind. Players could still help others achieve high standing (pass a lot of tests) if they want to, but it wouldn't be required, the way it appears to be required currently.
-To summarize, the two changes I'd like to see are: 1) Honor all characters on the monuments for their actual accomplishments. If we had 6 Oracles in a discipline, I personally want to see the names of all 6 under that heading, and so on down the line. If the programming is such that a monument requires x-number of characters of each level, have that done internally and invisibly, rather than forcing characters to be honored at levels below their actual accomplishments. 2) Do something to reduce the last-minute push to get characters - especially brand new characters - passing tests beyond their true ability and understanding, and in the most minimal way - just to guarantee that a monument can be completed. I suggested a percentage of current population, but that's just a suggestion. (Samisotet)
+To summarize, the two changes I'd like to see are: 1) Honor all characters on the monuments for their actual accomplishments. If we had 6 Oracles in a discipline, I personally want to see the names of all 6 under that heading, and so on down the line. If the programming is such that a monument requires x-number of characters of each level, have that done internally and invisibly, rather than forcing characters to be honored at levels below their actual accomplishments. 2) Do something to reduce the last-minute push to get characters - especially brand new characters - passing tests beyond their true ability and understanding, and in the most minimal way - just to guarantee that a monument can be completed. I suggested a percentage of current population, but that's just a suggestion. [[User: Samisotet|Samisotet]])
 == Persistent World ==

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 Then there's the flip side of this issue: Players who are new to the tale, like me, who have contributed little or nothing to the community or the telling itself, being practically given passages just to ensure that enough bodies qualify for a spot on the monument so the monument can actually be completed. That denigrates the accomplishments earned by others who *have* given to the community, who *have* worked their tails off to accomplish what they've accomplished. Please don't misunderstand me here - I totally and completely appreciate the help and support I personally have received, and the help given to other new players. Helping each other is a wonderful thing! I've learned much, and gotten to feel like a part of the community through it all. And I understand *why* the player base is forced into that behavior, it's a natural response to the current monument rules. It also leads new players, who aren't vested in the tale, to think "you should help me advance because you need me for your monument". I'd like to see all that changed. If the sheer numbers of characters needed to fulfill the body count requirements was predicated on some percentage of the *current* population, seems like that would reduce the need of a last minute scramble to pass characters on discipline principles at the cost of the integrity of the game. At least in my mind. Players could still help others achieve high standing (pass a lot of tests) if they want to, but it wouldn't be required, the way it appears to be required currently.
-To summarize, the two changes I'd like to see are: 1) Honor all characters on the monuments for their actual accomplishments. If we had 6 Oracles in a discipline, I personally want to see the names of all 6 under that heading, and so on down the line. If the programming is such that a monument requires x-number of characters of each level, have that done internally and invisibly, rather than forcing characters to be honored at levels below their actual accomplishments. 2) Do something to reduce the last-minute push to get characters - especially brand new characters - passing tests beyond their true ability and understanding, and in the most minimal way - just to guarantee that a monument can be completed. I suggested a percentage of current population, but that's just a suggestion.
+To summarize, the two changes I'd like to see are: 1) Honor all characters on the monuments for their actual accomplishments. If we had 6 Oracles in a discipline, I personally want to see the names of all 6 under that heading, and so on down the line. If the programming is such that a monument requires x-number of characters of each level, have that done internally and invisibly, rather than forcing characters to be honored at levels below their actual accomplishments. 2) Do something to reduce the last-minute push to get characters - especially brand new characters - passing tests beyond their true ability and understanding, and in the most minimal way - just to guarantee that a monument can be completed. I suggested a percentage of current population, but that's just a suggestion. (Samisotet)
 == Persistent World ==

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	30 days after all the monuments are built (each has at least 1 oracle), the first 7 oracles in each discipline that contribute (at oracle level) to the monument have the option to make a Test/Tech suggestion. (They can choose to pass on making a suggestion and the next oracle gets a chance.) Those suggestions are voted on by everyone that has contributed to the monument. There is 30 days to vote. Votes are weighted by the level which you have contributed to the monument (ie student gets a weight of 1, oracles 7). [[User:Kyline\|Kyline]] (+1 Samisotet)		30 days after all the monuments are built (each has at least 1 oracle), the first 7 oracles in each discipline that contribute (at oracle level) to the monument have the option to make a Test/Tech suggestion. (They can choose to pass on making a suggestion and the next oracle gets a chance.) Those suggestions are voted on by everyone that has contributed to the monument. There is 30 days to vote. Votes are weighted by the level which you have contributed to the monument (ie student gets a weight of 1, oracles 7). [[User:Kyline\|Kyline]] (+1 Samisotet)
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	I like Kyline's suggestions, it brings monuments into the story and requires cooperation all through the tale, which I think is a good thing. But there's still the possibilty of a few strong, quickly advancing players doing all the work. Whereas I hope it can be redesigned as a community effort, and recognize all characters for their achievements.		I like Kyline's suggestions, it brings monuments into the story and requires cooperation all through the tale, which I think is a good thing. But there's still the possibilty of a few strong, quickly advancing players doing all the work. Whereas I hope it can be redesigned as a community effort, and recognize all characters for their achievements.

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 Possibly contributing to a monument (after the initial site is built) gives a stat buff (similar to eating at a banquet?). When each stage is completed an Egypt wide message goes out and Egypt wide stat buff is given.
-days after all the monuments are built (each has at least 1 oracle), the first 7 oracles in each discipline that contribute (at oracle level) to the monument have the option to make a Test/Tech suggestion. (They can choose to pass on making a suggestion and the next oracle gets a chance.)  Those suggestions are voted on by everyone that has contributed to the monument. There is 30 days to vote. Votes are weighted by the level which you have contributed to the monument (ie student gets a weight of 1, oracles 7). [[User:Kyline|Kyline]]
+days after all the monuments are built (each has at least 1 oracle), the first 7 oracles in each discipline that contribute (at oracle level) to the monument have the option to make a Test/Tech suggestion. (They can choose to pass on making a suggestion and the next oracle gets a chance.)  Those suggestions are voted on by everyone that has contributed to the monument. There is 30 days to vote. Votes are weighted by the level which you have contributed to the monument (ie student gets a weight of 1, oracles 7). [[User:Kyline|Kyline]] (+1 Samisotet)
 == Persistent World ==

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	I'd like to see macros that we could run within the game. Macros bring an separate challenge to the game, but being able to share them with the community often leads to frustration with different third party tools being used. With an option to run macros within the game, a lot more non-technical people could enjoy the benefits macros have to offer. An extension to this could be to have macros as trade items (maybe scrolls), and offer challenges around these. [[User:Ofalot\|Ofalot]]		I'd like to see macros that we could run within the game. Macros bring an separate challenge to the game, but being able to share them with the community often leads to frustration with different third party tools being used. With an option to run macros within the game, a lot more non-technical people could enjoy the benefits macros have to offer. An extension to this could be to have macros as trade items (maybe scrolls), and offer challenges around these. [[User:Ofalot\|Ofalot]]
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		+	== Wiki Voting/Polling ==
		+	There are various wiki voting/polling extensions available on the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Poll_extensions MediaWiki site], but none are available for this wiki. Can we implement voting or polling on the T7 wiki? [[User:Darkfyre\|Darkfyre]] - Aug 10 2015

	= Storyline Suggestions =		= Storyline Suggestions =

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	Maybe something like conferring the ability to upgrade a kitchen to bake bread that confers temporary stats boosts when shared –requiring invocations/ emotes during the process to keep the worshipful element present. Seems counter-intuitive that with low player numbers the only way to find an alt of the right ‘age’ and discipline in the time frame for sharing the hold bread is to create one for the purpose, but with lower player numbers it was pretty well the only option. - Cate		Maybe something like conferring the ability to upgrade a kitchen to bake bread that confers temporary stats boosts when shared –requiring invocations/ emotes during the process to keep the worshipful element present. Seems counter-intuitive that with low player numbers the only way to find an alt of the right ‘age’ and discipline in the time frame for sharing the hold bread is to create one for the purpose, but with lower player numbers it was pretty well the only option. - Cate

		+	I really like the mechanics involved with Leavened Bread. Unfortunately the penalty for failure is so high people are terrified of the test. Perhaps the amount of wheat per bread could be drastically lowered? - Yendor

	== Humble Priests ==		== Humble Priests ==

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	+1, I think this is an excellent idea. For pyro/beetle it would also be nice if passes at individual stages were announced at the end of each competition. --[[User:Mattphat\|Mattphat]] July 2015		+1, I think this is an excellent idea. For pyro/beetle it would also be nice if passes at individual stages were announced at the end of each competition. --[[User:Mattphat\|Mattphat]] July 2015
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		+	== Throne of Pharaoh ==
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		+	This is pretty minor, but Throne should have a higher level requirement to start. Level 4 seems rather arbitrary, considering that most of the mats used in the test require the player to be a higher level anyway to produce (like building a pigment lab to make paint for example) Realistically, I can't imagine very many level 4 players who would at all be ready for this test unless they were an alt or something. It's probably one of the most expensive tests in the game. --[[User:Blueshift\|Blueshift]] July 30, 2015
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		+	About the principles: most people doing the test won't build a plinth themselves. These are regional projects, so like with Sphinx there will probably only be a limited number of them built. So learning project management 3 and building a plinth shouldn't be principles, as you can completely pass the test without doing either. --[[User:Blueshift\|Blueshift]] July 30, 2015

	== Test of Mentorship ==		== Test of Mentorship ==