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Rabble: /* Finding And Mixing Flavors (vineyard setups) */

2014-01-31T10:34:36Z

Finding And Mixing Flavors (vineyard setups)

Rabble: /* Aging wines in a bottle (understanding flavors and vintages) */

2014-01-31T10:25:48Z

Aging wines in a bottle (understanding flavors and vintages)

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Aging wines in a bottle (understanding flavors and vintages)

Rabble at 03:34, 27 January 2014

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Aging wines in a bottle (understanding flavors and vintages)

Rabble: /* Aging wines in a barrel (alcohol and tannin) */

2014-01-27T03:08:44Z

Aging wines in a barrel (alcohol and tannin)

Rabble at 08:30, 31 December 2013

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Rabble: /* Aging wines in a barrel (alcohol and tannin) */

2013-12-31T08:29:45Z

Aging wines in a barrel (alcohol and tannin)

Rabble: /* Aging wines in a bottle */

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Aging wines in a bottle

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-The actual flavor spot varies but is usually a few coordinates square.   However, it does not begin or end on coordinate boundaries.   This means that two vineyards built side by side can have slightly different flavors.   In the above example, the first vineyard might produce Grass, Walnut and Cherry wine while the second vineyard makes Grass, Walnut and Mushrooms wine.   Sometimes the adjacent vineyard can change all three flavors.
+The actual flavor spot varies but is usually a few coordinates square.   However, it does not begin or end on coordinate boundaries.   Two vineyards built side by side can have slightly different flavors.   In the above example, the first vineyard might produce Grass, Walnut and Cherry wine while the second vineyard makes Grass, Walnut and Mushrooms wine.   Sometimes the adjacent vineyard can change all three flavors.
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 == Finding And Mixing Flavors (vineyard setups) ==
-As noted, flavor spots are generally about two coordinate square but vary in size.   Flavors frequently reoccur in close proximity.   If you found one cherry spot, then there are probably multiple other cherry spots within five or ten coordinates.   There might event be a string of cherry spots every so often for a certain distance.   But these are all separate spots.  If you build an unbroken line of vineyards between the spots, you'll see the cherry flavor appears and disappears.
+Very rare flavors have very tiny spots.   If you build a vineyard precisely on the spot then you'll get the flavor.   Tear down the vineyard and move it one foot (in ATitD a foot is 1/16th of a coordinate) and you'll get different flavors.
-Each spot on the map can have up to three flavors although some only have one flavor.   When you first grow grapes at any new vineyard, you'll main purpose should be to determine the flavors present at that spot.   You tend the grapes until they are ripe, harvest them, put them in a barrel without mixing in any other grapes, and then seal the barrel.   You can immediately open and bottle the wine but it's best to let it age a bit to develop some alcohol content.   For flavor testing, I strongly recommend bottling the wine prior to the start of a new game month.   This means if you crush the grapes in the barrel on Akhet I-30 11:50pm, then you only have 10 game minutes (about 3 real life minutes) before the month switches to Akhet II.
+Each spot on the map can have up to three flavors although some only have one flavor since the other flavors there are too weak to ever show up a in wine.   Only a developer can spot that they are in wine by looking at the wine in the game data.
 == Filling in those wine books ==
 == Chemistry Wines, Ceremonies and other Wines ==

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		+	As noted, flavor spots are generally about two coordinate square but vary in size. Flavors frequently reoccur in close proximity. If you found one cherry spot, then there are probably multiple other cherry spots within five or ten coordinates. There might event be a string of cherry spots every so often for a certain distance. But these are all separate spots. If you build an unbroken line of vineyards between the spots, you'll see the cherry flavor appears and disappears.
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		+	Each spot on the map can have up to three flavors although some only have one flavor. When you first grow grapes at any new vineyard, you'll main purpose should be to determine the flavors present at that spot. You tend the grapes until they are ripe, harvest them, put them in a barrel without mixing in any other grapes, and then seal the barrel. You can immediately open and bottle the wine but it's best to let it age a bit to develop some alcohol content. For flavor testing, I strongly recommend bottling the wine prior to the start of a new game month. This means if you crush the grapes in the barrel on Akhet I-30 11:50pm, then you only have 10 game minutes (about 3 real life minutes) before the month switches to Akhet II.

	== Filling in those wine books ==		== Filling in those wine books ==

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 == Aging wines in a bottle (understanding flavors and vintages) ==
-Do you understand how the seasons work in ATiTD?   The in-game season is found at the top of screen [[Image:atitdseason.PNG|100px|left]].  Each new tale starts at Year 1, Akhet I-1.   "Akhet" is the first season of the year.  "Akhet I" is the first month of the season.   "Akhet I-1" is the first day of the first month of the first season.
+Do you understand how the seasons work in ATiTD?   The in-game season is found at the top of screen [[Image:atitdseason.PNG|250px]].  Each new tale starts at Year 1, Akhet I-1.   "Akhet" is the first season of the year.  "Akhet I" is the first month of the season.   "Akhet I-1" is the first day of the first month of the first season.
 There are four months in Akhet followed by four months in Peret followed by four months in Shemu and then the next year begins.   Each in-game month lasts about 10 real life days.

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-Once you bottle a wine, the alcohol, acid, and tannin levels never change.   They are frozen at the moment of bottling.
+Do you understand how the seasons work in ATiTD?   The in-game season is found at the top of screen [[Image:atitdseason.PNG|100px|left]].  Each new tale starts at Year 1, Akhet I-1.   "Akhet" is the first season of the year.  "Akhet I" is the first month of the season.   "Akhet I-1" is the first day of the first month of the first season.
-What does change after you bottle a wine is the vintage and the flavor.
+Each month is one wine vintage and a new tale starts with vintage zero.   The above screenshot shows Year 6, Shemu IV which mean it was taken in vintage 71.   (6 years of 12 seasons each = 72 seasons with the first season being vintage 0).  If you don't want to do the math, you can click on your chracter and choose skills->viticulture->current vintage to see the information displayed in main chat.
 Let's look at a section of the table to understand it better:
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-Each distinct flavor actually has 3 different descriptions.   In the above table, "Earthyness", "Moldyness", and "Mildew" are all the same exact flavor.   If you drink a Mildew flavored wine, you'll only see one of those descriptions and it's based mostly on the quality of the glass you used to drink the wine.   This means if you drink a Mildew wine using a 9000 quality glass, you'll probably see the Mildew flavor.   But if you drink the same wine using a 6000 quality glass, you'll likely only see the Moldyness flavor.   Finally, if you drink the same wine using a 1 quality glass (or no glass at all) then you'll only see Earthyness.
+When you bottle any wine, the game records the bottling vintage and permanently displays it in the wine description.  A wine bottled during the opening month of ATiTD (Year 1, Akhet I) will be vintage 0 wine.   A wine made the following month (Year 1, Akhet II) will be vintage 1 wine.   But the flavors only show up once the wine has aged.
-This is a very important distinction.   Some of the wine tasting notebooks require certain flavors, such as Mint or Cherry or Tea.
+Just as flavors appear after a certain age, they also eventually disappear.  In tale 6, Raspberry is one of the more common flavors and shows up after one vintage.   But it also vanishes before 20 vintages.  This means if you want to drink some raspberry wine you have to drink it within a certain timeframe.   Wines that are too new or wines that are too old will both display as thin.   The new wines can be kept until they eventually display flavors.   The old wines will never regain their flavors.
 == Finding And Mixing Flavors (vineyard setups) ==

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		+	THIS GUIDE IS STILL BEING WRITTEN. I AM WORKING ON THE AGING WINES IN A BOTTLE SECTION ATM.
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	So you want to be an ATiTD wine maker? No. Stop. Don't do it. Go away. It will drive you nuts.		So you want to be an ATiTD wine maker? No. Stop. Don't do it. Go away. It will drive you nuts.

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 Once a barrel is sealed, the grapes will start to ferment and produce wine.  You can click on the barrel at any time and choose "Siphon a Barrel Sample".   You'll see the current stats of the wine.  They are Alcohol, Residual Sugar, Tannin and Acid.  You can siphon a barrel sample as often as you want.   It doesn't change or decrease the amount of wine in the barrel.
 Initially, the alcohol will be zero but will rapidly increase as Residual Sugar turns into alcohol.  Each 0.1% of Residual Sugar will turn into 0.2% alcohol.  The rate slows as the wine ages and as the amount of residual sugar drops.  But the maximum alcohol level is limited to the starting residual sugar.   If the wine started with residual sugar of 3.0 then it will max out at 6.0% alcohol.
 Tannin starts at zero and slowly increases based on the skin and color stats of the grapes used to make the wine.
 Wines are made for a variety of purposes.   If you are making wines for chemistry, you'll need very high tannin or alcohol levels in order to produce lots of spirits.   Some wines needed for tests also require a specific alcohol level.   But most of the wines needed to fill wine tasting notebooks can be any alcohol level.   This means you can harvest grapes and take them to a barrel, seal the barrel, and then immediately click on the barrel and choose "Open the Barrel and Bottle the Wine".   You'll need one empty wine barrel for every 21 bunches of grapes in the barrel.
 Once the wine is bottled, you can't rename it.   It shows up in your inventory with the label that was on the wine in the barrel.   When you are ready to bottle the wines, I suggest you first siphon a sample, then use the information from the siphon to re-label the wine.   The new label can include the vineyard data, alcohol level and any other information you want to include in the wine label.   ''Good wine labels are very important when it comes to filling wine tasting notebooks!''   There is more information on this later on.
 Re-labeling wine in the barrel requires one papyrus paper and one ink per re-label.   You'll also need a single quill to make the new label but the quill is reusable.

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	Once the wine is bottled, you can't rename it. It shows up in your inventory with the label that was on the wine in the barrel. When you are ready to bottle the wines, I suggest you first siphon a sample, then use the information from the siphon to re-label the wine. The new label can include the vineyard data, alcohol level and any other information you want to include in the wine label. ''Good wine labels are very important when it comes to filling wine tasting notebooks!'' There is more information on this later on.		Once the wine is bottled, you can't rename it. It shows up in your inventory with the label that was on the wine in the barrel. When you are ready to bottle the wines, I suggest you first siphon a sample, then use the information from the siphon to re-label the wine. The new label can include the vineyard data, alcohol level and any other information you want to include in the wine label. ''Good wine labels are very important when it comes to filling wine tasting notebooks!'' There is more information on this later on.
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		+	Re-labeling wine in the barrel requires one papyrus paper and one ink per re-label. You'll also need a single quill to make the new label but the quill is reusable.

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 Once the wine is bottled, you can't rename it.   It shows up in your inventory with the label that was on the wine in the barrel.   When you are ready to bottle the wines, I suggest you first siphon a sample, then use the information from the siphon to re-label the wine.   The new label can include the vineyard data, alcohol level and any other information you want to include in the wine label.   ''Good wine labels are very important when it comes to filling wine tasting notebooks!''   There is more information on this later on.
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+== Aging wines in a bottle (understanding flavors and vintages) ==
 == Drinking is the best part ==