Basilius: Created page with "Buried in forge work, when I heard Windsong holler from over the mountain "He's talking!" Confused I wandered over to where Sedjet and Windsong were, and suddenly I realized thes..."

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Created page with "Buried in forge work, when I heard Windsong holler from over the mountain "He's talking!" Confused I wandered over to where Sedjet and Windsong were, and suddenly I realized thes..."

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Buried in forge work, when I heard Windsong holler from over the mountain "He's talking!"
Confused I wandered over to where Sedjet and Windsong were, and suddenly I realized thestranger was with them -
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 thestranger: Have you found a balance

 Basilius: no. I have some theories

 Basilius: but no balance yet

 Basilius: I only have grain spirits of fire to work with and eugenius was only testing water, so I've been trying to distill some more varieties

 Basilius: tricky machine that Alembic. . . very touchy

 Sedjet: and unfortunately I do not have the technology to help, so I've been helping them by gathering herbs and such

 thestranger: I do not think the quality of the water will hinder the product just the productivness

 thestranger: much like your chemistry, the better the water the more output

 Basilius: That was something I wondered about

 Basilius: I think I understand the spirits

 Windsong: Do we need an Alchemy Bench? Is that coming?

 Basilius: but have only had 2 wines to test with..ok

 Basilius: so then the real issue is

 Basilius: We are trying to take a certain amount of Earth, and just enough fire or air, to create a balance? or are we trying to take it to "negative weight"? so that it rises?

 thestranger: an alchemy bench is needed to concentrate a mixture and make it useful

 thestranger: Like the Elixir's of Travel I have

 Basilius: I need a way to test two things against each other to find out their true weight . . .that I feel is where I'm sort of stuck on the "Random" resource use

 thestranger: they come in different concentrated forms

 Basilius: do we think that "any" component of sun works the same, or is it that each component of sun has it's own balance?

 thestranger: each component has its own balance

 Windsong: How long until we can make the Alchemy Bench, I don't see it as an option at this time

 thestranger: and a balance that might work might not be balanced at all

 thestranger: [OOC: more recipies than what tale1 had are going to be introduced and are in progress atm]

 Basilius: I"m still struggling with the variation between sun moons stars and spirits, versus fire water air and earth

 Basilius: It seems like Stars are Earth, Sun is Fire, Moon is Air, and Spirits are water

 thestranger: water is neutral

 Windsong: Should all testing be done with Water spirits? Does it make a difference?

 Basilius: But I assume it's just the predominate balance, so that something that has (arbitrary numbers to show balance) 3 fire value, 0 air, 2 water and 2 earth, would be a Sun . . .

 Basilius: Windsong he stated quality makes a difference in production effeciency, not success. So water fire life air and ra will give us differnt. . .volume? at the end, but not effect mixture succes

 thestranger: This is my understanding.

 Basilius: so when we add the values of the Moon component, the Sun component, nad the stars components in the mixture . . . .I wonder is it ALL of the elemental make up that is mixing, or just the predominate? Would that example "sun" add (3,0,2,2) or just 3 fire? or just 1 fire for being past balance of earth

 Basilius: this is where I'm lost without being able to test Alchemical Weight of two object against each other

 thestranger: Not only does the weight have to be correct but some ingredients attract each other while others repel

 Basilius blinks

 Basilius: wha . . .I hadn't even . .thought of that

 Basilius paces back and forth chewing on the tip of his beard.

 Basilius: How do we test these things?

 Basilius: So far it's been somewhat random tests by many people, Eugenius studying old works of how alchemy worked in other era's and lands, but without real frame of reference we are al playing guessing games
 Basilius kicks his assimilation bath, hoping a new idea will drip out.

 Basilius: Ok, so, one thing that frustrates me with the bath is there is no indication of success or fail .. . I start a process, and next thing I know my bath is sitting empty and waititng, no remnants, no horrible smells, no loud clanging alarms.

 Basilius: Is it possible that the bath is a multi stage tool? and we aren't completeing the process?

 Sedjet: Or is it timed, like acid baths?

 Sedjet: Rather, like we get better yields at better times for salts

 Basilius: we have no way of interrupting the process tho

 Sedjet: Well, here goes that idea...

 Basilius: I'm truly stumped on how to progress other than random testing. I guess I pick one Stars, one moon, and one sun and just try my way thru all . . . . .

 Basilius scratches his head counting . . .

 Basilius: um seven to the third possibilities

 thestranger: the bath works simply. 5 minutes you either make or not

 thestranger: with the amount of combinations; finding a working one is a bit difficult

 thestranger: for each 3 items added there are 343 different combinations just regarding the amount used

 thestranger: With just the items I have recieved there is 2.7 million combinations

 Basilius: however we are lucky I think

 Basilius: because if it is truly the Alchemical Weight (AW) of the components that matter, rather than the specific components, we should get lucky somewhere in the middle

 thestranger: and that is only using 7 of each item

 Basilius: I guess my only thought is . . . put in 1 dbn of stars, 1 dbn of moon, and test thru the 7 dbns of sun.

 Basilius: need to find a way to shorten the list.....

 thestranger: you could eliminate different value's

 thestranger: while it is possible that you would need 7 of each

 thestranger: it is not probable

 Basilius: yeah, I was guessing not

 Basilius: my tests have been various amounts trying to equal 7, to match the waters volume

 Basilius: so like 2 sun 1 moon 4 stars

 Basilius: but I can't create balance in seven. No combination of x+y+x=7 yields x+y=z

 thestranger: Recipe's will appear soon

 thestranger: [OOC: waiting on coding]

 Basilius: I have been using red sand and white sand as my 2 primary test components

 Basilius: Red sand is special and I had some hopes it's qualty of specialness would show itself with the assimilation bath..

 thestranger: I would test 765 764 764 762 761, 754

 thestranger: Its is ok; I am departing.

 Basilius: I see

 Basilius: oh I had something similar on my thoeries of balance page after your talk on the values of water and fire that I missed last visit.

 Basilius: of course!

 Basilius: That would weight it towards the one, providing the element balance at the end of being earth, but with the predominating air and fire in total would unbalance it to rise, but but . . oh I think I have plan!

 Windsong: <heaven help us all>

 Windsong: oops did I say that out loud?

 Basilius dashes about his boxes madly scoopoing things into relativisticly shrinking piles.
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And as usual he was gone, as suddenly as he appeared . . . .

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