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==Overview== | ==Overview== | ||
− | My current project is incense research. For many tales, the wiki has noted that adding Petals of Ra to incense can change its feeling, yet I have not found anything more than that. Time to poke at it and see what comes out! At this time, I am only researching the changes from Rose petals. | + | My current project is incense research. For many tales, the wiki has noted that adding Petals of Ra to incense can change its feeling, yet I have not found anything more than that. Time to poke at it and see what comes out! At this time, I am only researching the changes from Rose petals. As I finish the University roses, I am testing Lilies of the Sea and a few Orchids. Petals can be harvested from all in-game flower types. |
The feeling is affected by the flower petals added to the batch. <br> | The feeling is affected by the flower petals added to the batch. <br> | ||
'''Starting point feelings, available without adding flower petals''': Gentle, Giddy, Guilty, Hopeful, Melancholious, Relaxed, Sorrowful, Vengeful.<br> | '''Starting point feelings, available without adding flower petals''': Gentle, Giddy, Guilty, Hopeful, Melancholious, Relaxed, Sorrowful, Vengeful.<br> | ||
− | '''Feelings seen after adding flower petals''': Invigorating, Joyous, | + | '''Feelings seen after adding flower petals''': Invigorating, Joyous, Mischievous, Serene, Suspicious, Troubled.<br> |
− | I am testing with the University roses: GL=Goldenleaves, HB=Hatch's Bud, NB=Night Bloom, OS=Onion Skin, PA=Pantomime, PG=Pink Giant, RD=Red Dwarf, WG=White Giant, and if released, BH=Blood Heart, DB=Dawn's Blush, and HD=Heart of Darkness. | + | I am testing with the University roses: GL=Goldenleaves, HB=Hatch's Bud, NB=Night Bloom, OS=Onion Skin, PA=Pantomime, PG=Pink Giant, RD=Red Dwarf, WG=White Giant, and if released, BH=Blood Heart, DB=Dawn's Blush, and HD=Heart of Darkness. SP=Starting Point. |
<s>Here is my raw data.</s> There's now way too much data to make it worth posting here. Hoping to find patterns and create a better way to show them. So far, adding petals seems to change the quality and sometimes the feeling. | <s>Here is my raw data.</s> There's now way too much data to make it worth posting here. Hoping to find patterns and create a better way to show them. So far, adding petals seems to change the quality and sometimes the feeling. | ||
Possible patterns: | Possible patterns: | ||
− | *I have seen some consistency in some of the feeling changes. I am working on a model that reflects these changes, perhaps a path or a circle to be | + | *I have seen some consistency in some of the feeling changes. I am working on a model that reflects these changes, perhaps a path or a circle to be traveled along. |
*Some feeling changes are rapid, and in some tests the feeling has not changed at all. No test has gone beyond adding 20 petals of the same rose. | *Some feeling changes are rapid, and in some tests the feeling has not changed at all. No test has gone beyond adding 20 petals of the same rose. | ||
*The concept of starting points may be useful in predicting feeling changes. | *The concept of starting points may be useful in predicting feeling changes. | ||
− | The incense [[User:Maia/Incense/Starts| Starting Points table]] available through Maia's user page suggests multiple feeling types, which leads me to believe that at some point, somebody has done research on this. Her table lists starting points for: Gentle, Giddy, Guilty, Hopeful 1, Hopeful 2, Melancholious, Relaxed 1, Relaxed 2, Relaxed 3, Sorrowful 1, Sorrowful 2, and Vengeful. | + | The incense [[User:Maia/Incense/Starts| Starting Points table]] available through Maia's user page suggests multiple feeling types, which leads me to believe that at some point, somebody has done research on this. Her table lists starting points for: Gentle, Giddy, Guilty, Hopeful 1, Hopeful 2, Melancholious, Relaxed 1, Relaxed 2, Relaxed 3, Sorrowful 1, Sorrowful 2, and Vengeful. (During my testing, I have only seen the starting point of Relaxed 2 twice.) |
Data below has been placed on a Google Sheet, arranged by starting point. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mWDHQ8S_nsslxLSS4COkY8InkdSaJcYibpmC7_43i4I/edit#gid=1452045906 | Data below has been placed on a Google Sheet, arranged by starting point. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mWDHQ8S_nsslxLSS4COkY8InkdSaJcYibpmC7_43i4I/edit#gid=1452045906 | ||
==Results!== | ==Results!== | ||
− | '''The following six feelings are not represented in the Starting Points table. They can only be created by adding flower petals to an incense''' | + | '''The following six feelings are not represented in the Starting Points table. They can only be created by adding flower petals to an incense. SP = Starting Point''' |
===Invigorating=== | ===Invigorating=== | ||
− | Melancholious | + | Hopeful 1 SP |
+ | +9 Energy Lily of the Sea Petals | ||
+ | |||
+ | Melancholious SP | ||
+1 Pantomime petal | +1 Pantomime petal | ||
− | Melancholious | + | Melancholious SP |
+1 Pink Giant petal | +1 Pink Giant petal | ||
+ | |||
+ | Melancholious SP | ||
+ | +1 Night Bloom petal | ||
+ | |||
+ | Melancholious SP | ||
+ | +2 Onion Skin petals | ||
+ | |||
+ | Melancholious SP | ||
+ | +2 White Giant petals | ||
+ | |||
+ | Sorrowful 1 SP | ||
+ | +15 Masquerade Orchid petals | ||
===Joyous=== | ===Joyous=== | ||
− | Relaxed3 | + | Gentle SP |
+ | +9 Serene Lagoon Orchid petals | ||
+ | |||
+ | Guilty SP | ||
+ | +3 Serene Lagoon Orchid petals | ||
+ | |||
+ | Hopeful 1 SP | ||
+ | +7 Serene Lagoon Orchid petals | ||
+ | |||
+ | Relaxed3 SP | ||
+5 Pantomime petals | +5 Pantomime petals | ||
− | === | + | Relaxed3 SP |
+ | +5 Night Bloom Petals | ||
+ | |||
+ | Sorrowful1 SP | ||
+ | +3 Serene Lagoon Orchid Petals | ||
+ | |||
+ | Sorrowful2 SP | ||
+ | +5 Serene Lagoon Orchid Petals | ||
+ | |||
+ | ===Mischievous=== | ||
− | Melancholious | + | Hopeful 1 SP |
+ | + 8 Energy Lily of the Sea petals | ||
+ | |||
+ | Melancholious SP | ||
+2 Pantomime Petals | +2 Pantomime Petals | ||
− | Melancholious | + | Melancholious SP |
+2 Pink Giant Petals | +2 Pink Giant Petals | ||
− | + | Melancholious SP | |
+ | +2 Night Bloom Petals | ||
− | Giddy | + | Sorrowful 1 SP |
+ | +10 Masquerade Orchid petals | ||
+ | |||
+ | ===Serene=== | ||
+ | '''Can be made from all starting points''' | ||
+ | |||
+ | Gentle SP | ||
+ | +5 Serene Lagoon Orchid Petals | ||
+ | |||
+ | Giddy SP | ||
+3 Pantomime Petals | +3 Pantomime Petals | ||
− | Guilty | + | Giddy SP |
+ | +18 Pink Giant Petals | ||
+ | |||
+ | Guilty SP | ||
+4 Goldenleaves Petals | +4 Goldenleaves Petals | ||
− | Guilty | + | Guilty SP |
+ | +8 Night Bloom Petals | ||
+ | |||
+ | Guilty SP | ||
+9 Pantomime Petals | +9 Pantomime Petals | ||
− | Hopeful2 | + | Hopeful1 SP |
+ | +8 Pink Giant Petals | ||
+ | |||
+ | Hopeful 1 SP | ||
+ | + 2 Energy Lily of the Sea petals | ||
+ | |||
+ | Hopeful2 SP | ||
+16 Pink Giant Petals | +16 Pink Giant Petals | ||
− | Relaxed1 | + | Melancholious SP |
+ | +14 Night Bloom Petals | ||
+ | |||
+ | Relaxed1 SP | ||
+ | +2 Onion Skin Petals | ||
+ | |||
+ | Relaxed1 SP | ||
+4 Hatch's Bud Petals | +4 Hatch's Bud Petals | ||
− | Relaxed3 | + | Relaxed1 SP |
+ | +3 Pantomime Petals | ||
+ | |||
+ | Relaxed1 SP | ||
+ | +6 White Giant Petals | ||
+ | |||
+ | Relaxed2 SP | ||
+ | +3 Pantomime Petals, Q peaks at +7 | ||
+ | |||
+ | Relaxed2 SP | ||
+ | +2 Night Bloom Petals, Q peaks at +5 | ||
+ | |||
+ | Relaxed3 SP | ||
+ | +3 Goldenleaves Petals | ||
+ | |||
+ | Relaxed3 SP | ||
+ | +3 Onion Skin Petals | ||
+ | |||
+ | Relaxed3 SP | ||
+8 Pantomime Petals | +8 Pantomime Petals | ||
− | Sorrowful1 | + | Relaxed3 SP |
+ | +6 Night Bloom Petals | ||
+ | |||
+ | Sorrowful1 SP | ||
+8 Pantomime Petals | +8 Pantomime Petals | ||
+ | |||
+ | Sorrowful1 SP | ||
+ | +6 Night Bloom Petals | ||
+ | |||
+ | Sorrowful1 SP | ||
+ | +4 Goldenleaves Petals | ||
+ | |||
+ | Sorrowful2 SP | ||
+ | +12 Pink Giant Petals | ||
+ | |||
+ | Vengeful SP | ||
+ | +4 Pink Giant Petals | ||
+ | |||
+ | Sorrowful2 SP | ||
+ | +2 Serene Lagoon Orchid Petals (+3 for higher Q) | ||
===Suspicious=== | ===Suspicious=== | ||
− | Melancholious | + | Melancholious SP |
− | +4 Hatch's Bud | + | +4 Hatch's Bud petals |
+ | |||
+ | Melancholious SP | ||
+ | +3 Onion Skin petals | ||
+ | |||
+ | Melancholious SP | ||
+ | +3 Red Dwarf petals | ||
===Troubled=== | ===Troubled=== | ||
− | Gentle | + | Gentle SP |
+4 Pink Giant Petals | +4 Pink Giant Petals | ||
− | Guilty | + | Guilty SP |
− | + 7 Hatch's Bud Petals | + | +7 Hatch's Bud Petals |
+ | |||
+ | Guilty SP | ||
+ | +5 Red Dwarf Petals | ||
+ | |||
+ | Melancholious SP | ||
+ | +4 Onion Skin petals | ||
+ | |||
+ | Melancholious SP | ||
+ | +5 Onion Skin petals gives +46 Q | ||
+ | |||
+ | Melancholious SP | ||
+ | +9 White Giant Petals | ||
− | Relaxed3 | + | Relaxed3 SP |
+5 Red Dwarf Petals | +5 Red Dwarf Petals | ||
− | Relaxed3 | + | Relaxed3 SP |
+7 Hatch's Bud Petals | +7 Hatch's Bud Petals | ||
− | + | Sorrowful1 SP | |
+5 Hatch's Bud Petals | +5 Hatch's Bud Petals | ||
+ | Sorrowful1 SP | ||
+ | +4 Red Dwarf Petals | ||
− | ==Researched Starting Points== | + | ==Researched Starting Points: Roses of Ra== |
The following combinations of starting points and flower petals have been researched. On a few occasions, I have researched the same combination twice, and found the same results were produced. I have not kept data on the optimal quality points, only the feelings produced. | The following combinations of starting points and flower petals have been researched. On a few occasions, I have researched the same combination twice, and found the same results were produced. I have not kept data on the optimal quality points, only the feelings produced. | ||
− | + | Data below has been placed on a Google Sheet, arranged by starting point. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mWDHQ8S_nsslxLSS4COkY8InkdSaJcYibpmC7_43i4I/edit#gid=1452045906 | |
+ | |||
'''Starting point feelings, available without adding flower petals''': Gentle, Giddy, Guilty, Hopeful, Melancholious, Relaxed, Sorrowful, Vengeful.<br> | '''Starting point feelings, available without adding flower petals''': Gentle, Giddy, Guilty, Hopeful, Melancholious, Relaxed, Sorrowful, Vengeful.<br> | ||
− | ''' | + | '''Additional feelings seen only after adding flower petals''': Invigorating, Joyous, Mischievious, Serene, Suspicious, Troubled.<br> |
− | + | ||
+ | Hopeful 2 + OS: SP-1 Hopeful, 2-20 Vengeful<br> | ||
+ | Melancholious + GL: SP Melancholious, 1 Invigorating, 2-6 Sorrowful, 7-8 Serene, 9-20 Vengeful<br> | ||
+ | Relaxed 2 + HB: SP Relaxed, 1-3 Sorrowful, 4-20 Giddy | ||
+ | |||
+ | {| style="color:#66585c; background-color:#FFFFFF; text-align:center; border-style:solid; border-color:#66585c" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="1" width="250px" class="wikitable" | ||
+ | |||
|Petals Tested ---> <br>-----------------------<br>Starting Points | |Petals Tested ---> <br>-----------------------<br>Starting Points | ||
− | |'''Golden- leaves''' | + | |'''GL Golden- leaves ''' |
− | |'''Hatch's Bud''' | + | |'''HB Hatch's Bud''' |
− | |'''Night Bloom''' | + | |'''NB Night Bloom''' |
− | |'''Onion Skin''' | + | |'''OS Onion Skin ''' |
− | |'''Panto- mime''' | + | |'''PA Panto- mime ''' |
− | |'''Pink Giant''' | + | |'''PG Pink Giant ''' |
− | |'''Red Dwarf''' | + | |'''RD Red Dwarf ''' |
− | |'''White Giant''' | + | |'''WG White Giant''' |
|- | |- | ||
|'''Gentle''' | |'''Gentle''' | ||
− | <!--Goldenleaves-->| | + | <!--Goldenleaves-->|{{yes}} |
<!--Hatch's Bud-->|{{yes}} | <!--Hatch's Bud-->|{{yes}} | ||
<!--Night Bloom-->|{{yes}} | <!--Night Bloom-->|{{yes}} | ||
− | <!--Onion Skin-->| | + | <!--Onion Skin-->|{{yes}} |
<!--Pantomime-->|{{yes}} | <!--Pantomime-->|{{yes}} | ||
<!--Pink Giant-->|{{yes}} | <!--Pink Giant-->|{{yes}} | ||
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<!--Goldenleaves-->|{{yes}} | <!--Goldenleaves-->|{{yes}} | ||
<!--Hatch's Bud-->|{{yes}} | <!--Hatch's Bud-->|{{yes}} | ||
− | <!--Night Bloom-->| | + | <!--Night Bloom-->|{{yes}} |
− | <!--Onion Skin-->| | + | <!--Onion Skin-->|{{yes}} |
<!--Pantomime-->|{{yes}} | <!--Pantomime-->|{{yes}} | ||
− | <!--Pink Giant-->| | + | <!--Pink Giant-->|{{yes}} |
− | <!--Red Dwarf-->| | + | <!--Red Dwarf-->|{{yes}} |
<!--White Giant-->| | <!--White Giant-->| | ||
|- | |- | ||
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<!--Goldenleaves-->|{{yes}} | <!--Goldenleaves-->|{{yes}} | ||
<!--Hatch's Bud-->|{{yes}} | <!--Hatch's Bud-->|{{yes}} | ||
− | <!--Night Bloom-->| | + | <!--Night Bloom-->|{{yes}} |
− | <!--Onion Skin-->| | + | <!--Onion Skin-->|{{yes}} |
<!--Pantomime-->|{{yes}} | <!--Pantomime-->|{{yes}} | ||
− | <!--Pink Giant-->| | + | <!--Pink Giant-->|{{yes}} |
− | <!--Red Dwarf-->| | + | <!--Red Dwarf-->|{{yes}} |
<!--White Giant-->|{{yes}} | <!--White Giant-->|{{yes}} | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Hopeful 1''' | |'''Hopeful 1''' | ||
− | <!--Goldenleaves-->| | + | <!--Goldenleaves-->|{{yes}} |
<!--Hatch's Bud-->|{{yes}} | <!--Hatch's Bud-->|{{yes}} | ||
− | <!--Night Bloom-->| | + | <!--Night Bloom-->|{{yes}} |
− | <!--Onion Skin-->| | + | <!--Onion Skin-->|{{yes}} |
<!--Pantomime-->|{{yes}} | <!--Pantomime-->|{{yes}} | ||
− | <!--Pink Giant-->| | + | <!--Pink Giant-->|{{yes}} |
− | <!--Red Dwarf-->| | + | <!--Red Dwarf-->|{{yes}} |
− | <!--White Giant-->| | + | <!--White Giant-->|{{yes}} |
|- | |- | ||
|'''Hopeful 2''' | |'''Hopeful 2''' | ||
<!--Goldenleaves-->|{{yes}} | <!--Goldenleaves-->|{{yes}} | ||
− | <!--Hatch's Bud-->| | + | <!--Hatch's Bud-->|{{yes}} |
− | <!--Night Bloom-->| | + | <!--Night Bloom-->|{{yes}} |
− | <!--Onion Skin-->| | + | <!--Onion Skin-->|{{yes}} |
<!--Pantomime-->|{{yes}} | <!--Pantomime-->|{{yes}} | ||
<!--Pink Giant-->|{{yes}} | <!--Pink Giant-->|{{yes}} | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|'''Melancholious''' | |'''Melancholious''' | ||
− | <!--Goldenleaves-->| | + | <!--Goldenleaves-->|{{yes}} |
<!--Hatch's Bud-->|{{yes}} | <!--Hatch's Bud-->|{{yes}} | ||
− | <!--Night Bloom-->| | + | <!--Night Bloom-->|{{yes}} |
− | <!--Onion Skin-->| | + | <!--Onion Skin-->|{{yes}} |
<!--Pantomime-->|{{yes}} | <!--Pantomime-->|{{yes}} | ||
<!--Pink Giant-->|{{yes}} | <!--Pink Giant-->|{{yes}} | ||
− | <!--Red Dwarf-->| | + | <!--Red Dwarf-->|{{yes}} |
− | <!--White Giant-->| | + | <!--White Giant-->|{{yes}} |
|- | |- | ||
|'''Relaxed 1''' | |'''Relaxed 1''' | ||
<!--Goldenleaves-->| | <!--Goldenleaves-->| | ||
<!--Hatch's Bud-->|{{yes}} | <!--Hatch's Bud-->|{{yes}} | ||
− | <!--Night Bloom-->| | + | <!--Night Bloom-->|{{yes}} |
− | <!--Onion Skin-->| | + | <!--Onion Skin-->|{{yes}} |
− | <!--Pantomime-->| | + | <!--Pantomime-->|{{yes}} |
− | <!--Pink Giant-->| | + | <!--Pink Giant-->|{{yes}} |
− | <!--Red Dwarf-->| | + | <!--Red Dwarf-->|{{yes}} |
− | <!--White Giant-->| | + | <!--White Giant-->|{{yes}} |
|- | |- | ||
|'''Relaxed 2''' | |'''Relaxed 2''' | ||
<!--Goldenleaves-->| | <!--Goldenleaves-->| | ||
− | <!--Hatch's Bud-->| | + | <!--Hatch's Bud-->|{{yes}} |
− | <!--Night Bloom-->| | + | <!--Night Bloom-->|{{yes}} |
<!--Onion Skin-->| | <!--Onion Skin-->| | ||
− | <!--Pantomime-->| | + | <!--Pantomime-->|{{yes}} |
<!--Pink Giant-->| | <!--Pink Giant-->| | ||
<!--Red Dwarf-->| | <!--Red Dwarf-->| | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|'''Relaxed 3''' | |'''Relaxed 3''' | ||
− | <!--Goldenleaves-->| | + | <!--Goldenleaves-->|{{yes}} |
<!--Hatch's Bud-->|{{yes}} | <!--Hatch's Bud-->|{{yes}} | ||
− | <!--Night Bloom-->| | + | <!--Night Bloom-->|{{yes}} |
− | <!--Onion Skin-->| | + | <!--Onion Skin-->|{{yes}} |
<!--Pantomime-->|{{yes}} | <!--Pantomime-->|{{yes}} | ||
− | <!--Pink Giant-->| | + | <!--Pink Giant-->|{{yes}} |
<!--Red Dwarf-->|{{yes}} | <!--Red Dwarf-->|{{yes}} | ||
<!--White Giant-->|{{yes}} | <!--White Giant-->|{{yes}} | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''Sorrowful 1''' | |'''Sorrowful 1''' | ||
− | <!--Goldenleaves-->| | + | <!--Goldenleaves-->|{{yes}} |
<!--Hatch's Bud-->|{{yes}} | <!--Hatch's Bud-->|{{yes}} | ||
− | <!--Night Bloom-->| | + | <!--Night Bloom-->|{{yes}} |
<!--Onion Skin-->|{{yes}} | <!--Onion Skin-->|{{yes}} | ||
<!--Pantomime-->|{{yes}} | <!--Pantomime-->|{{yes}} | ||
− | <!--Pink Giant-->| | + | <!--Pink Giant-->|{{yes}} |
− | <!--Red Dwarf-->| | + | <!--Red Dwarf-->|{{yes}} |
− | <!--White Giant-->| | + | <!--White Giant-->|{{yes}} |
|- | |- | ||
|'''Sorrowful 2''' | |'''Sorrowful 2''' | ||
<!--Goldenleaves-->|{{yes}} | <!--Goldenleaves-->|{{yes}} | ||
− | <!--Hatch's Bud-->| | + | <!--Hatch's Bud-->|{{yes}} |
− | <!--Night Bloom-->| | + | <!--Night Bloom-->|{{yes}} |
− | <!--Onion Skin-->| | + | <!--Onion Skin-->|{{yes}} |
− | <!--Pantomime-->| | + | <!--Pantomime-->|{{yes}} |
− | <!--Pink Giant-->| | + | <!--Pink Giant-->|{{yes}} |
<!--Red Dwarf-->|{{yes}} | <!--Red Dwarf-->|{{yes}} | ||
− | <!--White Giant-->| | + | <!--White Giant-->|{{yes}} |
|- | |- | ||
|'''Vengeful''' | |'''Vengeful''' | ||
− | <!--Goldenleaves-->| | + | <!--Goldenleaves-->|{{yes}} |
<!--Hatch's Bud-->|{{yes}} | <!--Hatch's Bud-->|{{yes}} | ||
<!--Night Bloom-->|{{yes}} | <!--Night Bloom-->|{{yes}} | ||
<!--Onion Skin-->|{{yes}} | <!--Onion Skin-->|{{yes}} | ||
− | <!--Pantomime-->| | + | <!--Pantomime-->|{{yes}} |
− | <!--Pink Giant-->| | + | <!--Pink Giant-->|{{yes}} |
− | <!--Red Dwarf-->| | + | <!--Red Dwarf-->|{{yes}} |
− | <!--White Giant-->| | + | <!--White Giant-->|{{yes}} |
+ | |} | ||
+ | <br> | ||
+ | |||
+ | ==Researched Starting Points: Orchids== | ||
+ | |||
+ | Data below has been placed on a Google Sheet, arranged by starting point. Since only a few orchid types have been tested, their data is on the pages with the roses. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mWDHQ8S_nsslxLSS4COkY8InkdSaJcYibpmC7_43i4I/edit#gid=1452045906 | ||
+ | |||
+ | Hopeful 1 + SL: SP-6 Hopeful, 7-20 Joyous<br> | ||
+ | Sorrowful 2 + SA: SP Sorrowful, 1-20 Giddy<br> | ||
+ | Sorrowful 2 + MA: SP-6 Sorrowful, 7-10 Mischievous, 11-20 Invigorating<br> | ||
+ | |||
+ | {| style="color:#66585c; background-color:#FFFFFF; text-align:center; border-style:solid; border-color:#66585c" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="1" width="250px" align="center" class="wikitable sortable" | ||
+ | |Petals Tested ---> <br>-----------------------<br>Starting Points | ||
+ | |'''Serene Lagoon''' | ||
+ | |'''Sabre- tooth''' | ||
+ | |'''Masquerade ''' | ||
+ | |''' ''' | ||
+ | |''' ''' | ||
+ | |''' ''' | ||
+ | |''' ''' | ||
+ | |''' ''' | ||
+ | |''' ''' | ||
+ | |''' ''' | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |'''Gentle''' | ||
+ | <!--Serene Lagoon-->| {{yes}} | ||
+ | <!--Sabretooth-->| {{yes}} | ||
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+ | |'''Giddy''' | ||
+ | <!--Serene Lagoon-->| | ||
+ | <!--Sabretooth-->| | ||
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+ | |'''Guilty''' | ||
+ | <!--Serene Lagoon-->| {{yes}} | ||
+ | <!--Sabretooth-->| {{yes}} | ||
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+ | |'''Hopeful 1''' | ||
+ | <!--Serene Lagoon-->| {{yes}} | ||
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+ | |'''Hopeful 2''' | ||
+ | <!--Serene Lagoon-->| | ||
+ | <!--Sabretooth-->| | ||
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+ | |- | ||
+ | |'''Melancholious''' | ||
+ | <!--Serene Lagoon-->| | ||
+ | <!--Sabretooth-->| | ||
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+ | |- | ||
+ | |'''Relaxed 1''' | ||
+ | <!--Serene Lagoon-->| | ||
+ | <!--Sabretooth-->| | ||
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+ | |- | ||
+ | |'''Relaxed 2''' | ||
+ | <!--Serene Lagoon-->| | ||
+ | <!--Sabretooth-->| | ||
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+ | |'''Relaxed 3''' | ||
+ | <!--Serene Lagoon-->| | ||
+ | <!--Sabretooth-->| | ||
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+ | |- | ||
+ | |'''Sorrowful 1''' | ||
+ | <!--Serene Lagoon-->| {{yes}} | ||
+ | <!--Sabretooth-->| {{yes}} | ||
+ | <!--Masquerade-->| {{yes}} | ||
+ | <!-- -->| | ||
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+ | |'''Sorrowful 2''' | ||
+ | <!--Serene Lagoon-->| {{yes}} | ||
+ | <!--Sabretooth-->| {{yes}} | ||
+ | <!--Masquerade-->| {{yes}} | ||
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+ | |'''Vengeful''' | ||
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+ | |} | ||
+ | <br> | ||
+ | |||
+ | ==Researched Starting Points: Lilies of the Sea== | ||
+ | |||
+ | Data below has been placed on a Google Sheet, arranged by starting point. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mWDHQ8S_nsslxLSS4COkY8InkdSaJcYibpmC7_43i4I/edit#gid=1452045906 | ||
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+ | Hopeful 1 + EN: SP Hopeful, 1 Vengeful, 2 Serene, 3 Relaxed, 4-7 Sorrowful, 8 Mischievous, 9-11 Invigorating, 12-20 Melancholious<br> | ||
+ | Sorrowful 2 + BL: SP Sorrowful, 1-20 Giddy<br> | ||
+ | |||
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+ | |Petals Tested ---> <br>-----------------------<br>Starting Points | ||
+ | |'''Blush''' | ||
+ | |'''Clarity''' | ||
+ | |'''Crimson''' | ||
+ | |'''Crown''' | ||
+ | |'''Dusk''' | ||
+ | |'''Energy''' | ||
+ | |'''Fracture''' | ||
+ | |'''Morning''' | ||
+ | |'''Silken''' | ||
+ | |'''Vampire''' | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |'''Gentle''' | ||
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+ | |- | ||
+ | |'''Giddy''' | ||
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+ | <!--Silken-->| | ||
+ | <!--Vampire-->| | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |'''Guilty''' | ||
+ | <!--Blush-->| | ||
+ | <!--Clarity-->| | ||
+ | <!--Crimson-->| | ||
+ | <!--Crown-->| | ||
+ | <!--Dusk-->| | ||
+ | <!--Energy-->| | ||
+ | <!--Fracture-->| | ||
+ | <!--Morning-->| | ||
+ | <!--Silken-->| {{yes}} | ||
+ | <!--Vampire-->| | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |'''Hopeful 1''' | ||
+ | <!--Blush-->| | ||
+ | <!--Clarity-->| | ||
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+ | <!--Dusk-->| | ||
+ | <!--Energy-->| {{yes}} | ||
+ | <!--Fracture-->| | ||
+ | <!--Morning-->| | ||
+ | <!--Silken-->| | ||
+ | <!--Vampire-->| | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |'''Hopeful 2''' | ||
+ | <!--Blush-->| | ||
+ | <!--Clarity-->| | ||
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+ | <!--Energy-->| | ||
+ | <!--Fracture-->| | ||
+ | <!--Morning-->| | ||
+ | <!--Silken-->| | ||
+ | <!--Vampire-->| | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |'''Melancholious''' | ||
+ | <!--Blush-->| | ||
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+ | <!--Energy-->| | ||
+ | <!--Fracture-->| | ||
+ | <!--Morning-->| | ||
+ | <!--Silken-->| | ||
+ | <!--Vampire-->| | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |'''Relaxed 1''' | ||
+ | <!--Blush-->| | ||
+ | <!--Clarity-->| | ||
+ | <!--Crimson-->| | ||
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+ | <!--Dusk-->| | ||
+ | <!--Energy-->| | ||
+ | <!--Fracture-->| | ||
+ | <!--Morning-->| | ||
+ | <!--Silken-->| | ||
+ | <!--Vampire-->| | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |'''Relaxed 2''' | ||
+ | <!--Blush-->| | ||
+ | <!--Clarity-->| | ||
+ | <!--Crimson-->| | ||
+ | <!--Crown-->| | ||
+ | <!--Dusk-->| | ||
+ | <!--Energy-->| | ||
+ | <!--Fracture-->| | ||
+ | <!--Morning-->| | ||
+ | <!--Silken-->| | ||
+ | <!--Vampire-->| | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |'''Relaxed 3''' | ||
+ | <!--Blush-->| | ||
+ | <!--Clarity-->| | ||
+ | <!--Crimson-->| | ||
+ | <!--Crown-->| | ||
+ | <!--Dusk-->| | ||
+ | <!--Energy-->| | ||
+ | <!--Fracture-->| | ||
+ | <!--Morning-->| | ||
+ | <!--Silken-->| | ||
+ | <!--Vampire-->| | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |'''Sorrowful 1''' | ||
+ | <!--Blush-->| | ||
+ | <!--Clarity-->| | ||
+ | <!--Crimson-->| | ||
+ | <!--Crown-->| | ||
+ | <!--Dusk-->| | ||
+ | <!--Energy-->| | ||
+ | <!--Fracture-->| | ||
+ | <!--Morning-->| | ||
+ | <!--Silken-->| {{yes}} | ||
+ | <!--Vampire-->| | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |'''Sorrowful 2''' | ||
+ | <!--Blush-->| {{yes}} | ||
+ | <!--Clarity-->| | ||
+ | <!--Crimson-->| | ||
+ | <!--Crown-->| | ||
+ | <!--Dusk-->| | ||
+ | <!--Energy-->| {{yes}} | ||
+ | <!--Fracture-->| | ||
+ | <!--Morning-->| | ||
+ | <!--Silken-->| | ||
+ | <!--Vampire-->| | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |'''Vengeful''' | ||
+ | <!--Blush-->| | ||
+ | <!--Clarity-->| | ||
+ | <!--Crimson-->| | ||
+ | <!--Crown-->| | ||
+ | <!--Dusk-->| | ||
+ | <!--Energy-->| {{yes}} | ||
+ | <!--Fracture-->| | ||
+ | <!--Morning-->| | ||
+ | <!--Silken-->| | ||
+ | <!--Vampire-->| | ||
+ | |} | ||
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Latest revision as of 09:23, 18 January 2018
Overview
My current project is incense research. For many tales, the wiki has noted that adding Petals of Ra to incense can change its feeling, yet I have not found anything more than that. Time to poke at it and see what comes out! At this time, I am only researching the changes from Rose petals. As I finish the University roses, I am testing Lilies of the Sea and a few Orchids. Petals can be harvested from all in-game flower types.
The feeling is affected by the flower petals added to the batch.
Starting point feelings, available without adding flower petals: Gentle, Giddy, Guilty, Hopeful, Melancholious, Relaxed, Sorrowful, Vengeful.
Feelings seen after adding flower petals: Invigorating, Joyous, Mischievous, Serene, Suspicious, Troubled.
I am testing with the University roses: GL=Goldenleaves, HB=Hatch's Bud, NB=Night Bloom, OS=Onion Skin, PA=Pantomime, PG=Pink Giant, RD=Red Dwarf, WG=White Giant, and if released, BH=Blood Heart, DB=Dawn's Blush, and HD=Heart of Darkness. SP=Starting Point.
Here is my raw data. There's now way too much data to make it worth posting here. Hoping to find patterns and create a better way to show them. So far, adding petals seems to change the quality and sometimes the feeling.
Possible patterns:
- I have seen some consistency in some of the feeling changes. I am working on a model that reflects these changes, perhaps a path or a circle to be traveled along.
- Some feeling changes are rapid, and in some tests the feeling has not changed at all. No test has gone beyond adding 20 petals of the same rose.
- The concept of starting points may be useful in predicting feeling changes.
The incense Starting Points table available through Maia's user page suggests multiple feeling types, which leads me to believe that at some point, somebody has done research on this. Her table lists starting points for: Gentle, Giddy, Guilty, Hopeful 1, Hopeful 2, Melancholious, Relaxed 1, Relaxed 2, Relaxed 3, Sorrowful 1, Sorrowful 2, and Vengeful. (During my testing, I have only seen the starting point of Relaxed 2 twice.)
Data below has been placed on a Google Sheet, arranged by starting point. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mWDHQ8S_nsslxLSS4COkY8InkdSaJcYibpmC7_43i4I/edit#gid=1452045906
Results!
The following six feelings are not represented in the Starting Points table. They can only be created by adding flower petals to an incense. SP = Starting Point
Invigorating
Hopeful 1 SP +9 Energy Lily of the Sea Petals
Melancholious SP +1 Pantomime petal
Melancholious SP +1 Pink Giant petal
Melancholious SP +1 Night Bloom petal
Melancholious SP +2 Onion Skin petals
Melancholious SP +2 White Giant petals
Sorrowful 1 SP +15 Masquerade Orchid petals
Joyous
Gentle SP +9 Serene Lagoon Orchid petals
Guilty SP +3 Serene Lagoon Orchid petals
Hopeful 1 SP +7 Serene Lagoon Orchid petals
Relaxed3 SP +5 Pantomime petals
Relaxed3 SP +5 Night Bloom Petals
Sorrowful1 SP +3 Serene Lagoon Orchid Petals
Sorrowful2 SP +5 Serene Lagoon Orchid Petals
Mischievous
Hopeful 1 SP + 8 Energy Lily of the Sea petals
Melancholious SP +2 Pantomime Petals
Melancholious SP +2 Pink Giant Petals
Melancholious SP +2 Night Bloom Petals
Sorrowful 1 SP +10 Masquerade Orchid petals
Serene
Can be made from all starting points
Gentle SP +5 Serene Lagoon Orchid Petals
Giddy SP +3 Pantomime Petals
Giddy SP +18 Pink Giant Petals
Guilty SP +4 Goldenleaves Petals
Guilty SP +8 Night Bloom Petals
Guilty SP +9 Pantomime Petals
Hopeful1 SP +8 Pink Giant Petals
Hopeful 1 SP + 2 Energy Lily of the Sea petals
Hopeful2 SP +16 Pink Giant Petals
Melancholious SP +14 Night Bloom Petals
Relaxed1 SP +2 Onion Skin Petals
Relaxed1 SP +4 Hatch's Bud Petals
Relaxed1 SP +3 Pantomime Petals
Relaxed1 SP +6 White Giant Petals
Relaxed2 SP +3 Pantomime Petals, Q peaks at +7
Relaxed2 SP +2 Night Bloom Petals, Q peaks at +5
Relaxed3 SP +3 Goldenleaves Petals
Relaxed3 SP +3 Onion Skin Petals
Relaxed3 SP +8 Pantomime Petals
Relaxed3 SP +6 Night Bloom Petals
Sorrowful1 SP +8 Pantomime Petals
Sorrowful1 SP +6 Night Bloom Petals
Sorrowful1 SP +4 Goldenleaves Petals
Sorrowful2 SP +12 Pink Giant Petals
Vengeful SP +4 Pink Giant Petals
Sorrowful2 SP +2 Serene Lagoon Orchid Petals (+3 for higher Q)
Suspicious
Melancholious SP +4 Hatch's Bud petals
Melancholious SP +3 Onion Skin petals
Melancholious SP +3 Red Dwarf petals
Troubled
Gentle SP +4 Pink Giant Petals
Guilty SP +7 Hatch's Bud Petals
Guilty SP +5 Red Dwarf Petals
Melancholious SP +4 Onion Skin petals
Melancholious SP +5 Onion Skin petals gives +46 Q
Melancholious SP +9 White Giant Petals
Relaxed3 SP +5 Red Dwarf Petals
Relaxed3 SP +7 Hatch's Bud Petals
Sorrowful1 SP +5 Hatch's Bud Petals
Sorrowful1 SP +4 Red Dwarf Petals
Researched Starting Points: Roses of Ra
The following combinations of starting points and flower petals have been researched. On a few occasions, I have researched the same combination twice, and found the same results were produced. I have not kept data on the optimal quality points, only the feelings produced.
Data below has been placed on a Google Sheet, arranged by starting point. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mWDHQ8S_nsslxLSS4COkY8InkdSaJcYibpmC7_43i4I/edit#gid=1452045906
Starting point feelings, available without adding flower petals: Gentle, Giddy, Guilty, Hopeful, Melancholious, Relaxed, Sorrowful, Vengeful.
Additional feelings seen only after adding flower petals: Invigorating, Joyous, Mischievious, Serene, Suspicious, Troubled.
Hopeful 2 + OS: SP-1 Hopeful, 2-20 Vengeful
Melancholious + GL: SP Melancholious, 1 Invigorating, 2-6 Sorrowful, 7-8 Serene, 9-20 Vengeful
Relaxed 2 + HB: SP Relaxed, 1-3 Sorrowful, 4-20 Giddy
Researched Starting Points: Orchids
Data below has been placed on a Google Sheet, arranged by starting point. Since only a few orchid types have been tested, their data is on the pages with the roses. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mWDHQ8S_nsslxLSS4COkY8InkdSaJcYibpmC7_43i4I/edit#gid=1452045906
Hopeful 1 + SL: SP-6 Hopeful, 7-20 Joyous
Sorrowful 2 + SA: SP Sorrowful, 1-20 Giddy
Sorrowful 2 + MA: SP-6 Sorrowful, 7-10 Mischievous, 11-20 Invigorating
Researched Starting Points: Lilies of the Sea
Data below has been placed on a Google Sheet, arranged by starting point. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mWDHQ8S_nsslxLSS4COkY8InkdSaJcYibpmC7_43i4I/edit#gid=1452045906
Hopeful 1 + EN: SP Hopeful, 1 Vengeful, 2 Serene, 3 Relaxed, 4-7 Sorrowful, 8 Mischievous, 9-11 Invigorating, 12-20 Melancholious
Sorrowful 2 + BL: SP Sorrowful, 1-20 Giddy