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User:Peacefulness/Peaceful Stuff
Overview
My current project is incense research. For many tales, the wiki has noted that adding Petals of Ra to incense can change its feeling, yet I have not found anything more than that. Time to poke at it and see what comes out! At this time, I am only researching the changes from Rose petals. It has been brought to my attention that petals can be harvested from all in-game flower types.
The feeling is affected by the flower petals added to the batch.
Starting point feelings, available without adding flower petals: Gentle, Giddy, Guilty, Hopeful, Melancholious, Relaxed, Sorrowful, Vengeful.
Feelings seen after adding flower petals: Invigorating, Joyous, Mischievious, Serene, Suspicious, Troubled.
I am testing with the University roses: GL=Goldenleaves, HB=Hatch's Bud, NB=Night Bloom, OS=Onion Skin, PA=Pantomime, PG=Pink Giant, RD=Red Dwarf, WG=White Giant, and if released, BH=Blood Heart, DB=Dawn's Blush, and HD=Heart of Darkness.
Here is my raw data. There's now way too much data to make it worth posting here. Hoping to find patterns and create a better way to show them. So far, adding petals seems to change the quality and sometimes the feeling.
Possible patterns:
- I have seen some consistency in some of the feeling changes. I am working on a model that reflects these changes, perhaps a path or a circle to be travelled along.
- Some feeling changes are rapid, and in some tests the feeling has not changed at all. No test has gone beyond adding 20 petals of the same rose.
- The concept of starting points may be useful in predicting feeling changes.
The incense Starting Points table available through Maia's user page suggests multiple feeling types, which leads me to believe that at some point, somebody has done research on this. Her table lists starting points for: Gentle, Giddy, Guilty, Hopeful 1, Hopeful 2, Melancholious, Relaxed 1, Relaxed 2, Relaxed 3, Sorrowful 1, Sorrowful 2, and Vengeful.
Data below has been placed on a Google Sheet, arranged by starting point. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mWDHQ8S_nsslxLSS4COkY8InkdSaJcYibpmC7_43i4I/edit#gid=1452045906
Results!
The following six feelings are not represented in the Starting Points table. They can only be created by adding flower petals to an incense
Invigorating
Melancholious Starting Point +1 Pantomime petal
Melancholious Starting Point +1 Pink Giant petal
Melancholious Starting Point +1 Night Bloom petal
Melancholious Starting Point +2 White Giant petals
Joyous
Relaxed3 Starting point +5 Pantomime petals
Relaxed3 Starting Point +5 Night Bloom Petals
Mischievious
Melancholious Starting Point +2 Pantomime Petals
Melancholious Starting Point +2 Pink Giant Petals
Melancholious Starting Point +2 Night Bloom Petals
Serene
Giddy Starting Point +3 Pantomime Petals
Guilty Starting Point +4 Goldenleaves Petals
Guilty Starting Point + 8 Night Bloom Petals
Guilty Starting Point +9 Pantomime Petals
Hopeful1 Starting Point +8 Pink Giant Petals
Hopeful2 Starting Point +16 Pink Giant Petals
Melancholious Starting Point + 14 Night Bloom Petals
Relaxed1 Starting Point +4 Hatch's Bud Petals
Relaxed1 Starting Point +3 Pantomime Petals
Relaxed 3 Starting Point +3 Goldenleaves Petals
Relaxed 3 Starting Point +3 Onion Skin Petals
Relaxed3 Starting Point +8 Pantomime Petals
Relaxed3 Starting Point +6 Night Bloom Petals
Sorrowful1 Starting Point +8 Pantomime Petals
Sorrowful1 Starting Point +6 Night Bloom Petals
Sorrowful1 Starting Point +4 Goldenleaves Petals
Sorrowful2 Starting Point +12 Pink Giant Petals
Suspicious
Melancholious Starting Point +4 Hatch's Bud Petals
Melancholious Starting Point + 3 Red Dwarf Petals
Troubled
Gentle Starting Point +4 Pink Giant Petals
Guilty Starting Point + 7 Hatch's Bud Petals
Guilty Starting Point +5 Red Dwarf Petals
Melancholious Starting Point +9 White Giant Petals
Relaxed3 Starting Point +5 Red Dwarf Petals
Relaxed3 Starting Point +7 Hatch's Bud Petals
Sorrowful1 Starting Point +5 Hatch's Bud Petals
Sorrowful1 Starting Point +4 Red Dwarf Petals
Researched Starting Points
The following combinations of starting points and flower petals have been researched. On a few occasions, I have researched the same combination twice, and found the same results were produced. I have not kept data on the optimal quality points, only the feelings produced.
Starting point feelings, available without adding flower petals: Gentle, Giddy, Guilty, Hopeful, Melancholious, Relaxed, Sorrowful, Vengeful.Additional feelings seen only after adding flower petals: Invigorating, Joyous, Mischievious, Serene, Suspicious, Troubled.
Vengeful + PA: SP-18 Vengeful, 19-20 Hopeful
Guilty + NB: SP Guilty, 1-7 Relaxed, 8-20 Serene
Goldenleaves SPs Hopeful 2 and Sorrowful 2 have not been tested past 10 petals added