User:Peacefulness/Peaceful Stuff

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My current project is incense research. For many tales, the wiki has noted that adding Petals of Ra to incense can change its feeling, yet I have not found anything more than that. Time to poke at it and see what comes out! At this time, I am only researching the changes from Rose petals. It has been brought to my attention that petals can be harvested from all in-game flower types.

The feeling is affected by the flower petals added to the batch.
Starting point feelings, available without adding flower petals: Gentle, Giddy, Guilty, Hopeful, Melancholious, Relaxed, Sorrowful, Vengeful.
Feelings seen after adding flower petals: Invigorating, Joyous, Mischievious, Serene, Suspicious, Troubled.
I am testing with the University roses: GL=Goldenleaves, HB=Hatch's Bud, NB=Night Bloom, OS=Onion Skin, PA=Pantomime, PG=Pink Giant, RD=Red Dwarf, WG=White Giant, and if released, BH=Blood Heart, DB=Dawn's Blush, and HD=Heart of Darkness. SP=Starting Point.

Here is my raw data. There's now way too much data to make it worth posting here. Hoping to find patterns and create a better way to show them. So far, adding petals seems to change the quality and sometimes the feeling.

Possible patterns:

  • I have seen some consistency in some of the feeling changes. I am working on a model that reflects these changes, perhaps a path or a circle to be traveled along.
  • Some feeling changes are rapid, and in some tests the feeling has not changed at all. No test has gone beyond adding 20 petals of the same rose.
  • The concept of starting points may be useful in predicting feeling changes.

The incense Starting Points table available through Maia's user page suggests multiple feeling types, which leads me to believe that at some point, somebody has done research on this. Her table lists starting points for: Gentle, Giddy, Guilty, Hopeful 1, Hopeful 2, Melancholious, Relaxed 1, Relaxed 2, Relaxed 3, Sorrowful 1, Sorrowful 2, and Vengeful. (During my testing, I have yet to see the starting point of Relaxed 2)

Data below has been placed on a Google Sheet, arranged by starting point. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mWDHQ8S_nsslxLSS4COkY8InkdSaJcYibpmC7_43i4I/edit#gid=1452045906

Results!

The following six feelings are not represented in the Starting Points table. They can only be created by adding flower petals to an incense

Invigorating

Melancholious Starting Point +1 Pantomime petal

Melancholious Starting Point +1 Pink Giant petal

Melancholious Starting Point +1 Night Bloom petal

Melancholious Starting Point +2 White Giant petals

Joyous

Relaxed3 Starting point +5 Pantomime petals

Relaxed3 Starting Point +5 Night Bloom Petals

Sorrowful1 Starting Point + 3 Serene Lagoon Orchid Petals

Mischievious

Melancholious Starting Point +2 Pantomime Petals

Melancholious Starting Point +2 Pink Giant Petals

Melancholious Starting Point +2 Night Bloom Petals

Serene

Giddy Starting Point +3 Pantomime Petals

Guilty Starting Point +4 Goldenleaves Petals

Guilty Starting Point + 8 Night Bloom Petals

Guilty Starting Point +9 Pantomime Petals

Hopeful1 Starting Point +8 Pink Giant Petals

Hopeful2 Starting Point +16 Pink Giant Petals

Melancholious Starting Point + 14 Night Bloom Petals

Relaxed1 Starting Point +4 Hatch's Bud Petals

Relaxed1 Starting Point +3 Pantomime Petals

Relaxed 3 Starting Point +3 Goldenleaves Petals

Relaxed 3 Starting Point +3 Onion Skin Petals

Relaxed3 Starting Point +8 Pantomime Petals

Relaxed3 Starting Point +6 Night Bloom Petals

Sorrowful1 Starting Point +8 Pantomime Petals

Sorrowful1 Starting Point +6 Night Bloom Petals

Sorrowful1 Starting Point +4 Goldenleaves Petals

Sorrowful2 Starting Point +12 Pink Giant Petals

Suspicious

Melancholious Starting Point +4 Hatch's Bud Petals

Melancholious Starting Point + 3 Red Dwarf Petals

Troubled

Gentle Starting Point +4 Pink Giant Petals

Guilty Starting Point + 7 Hatch's Bud Petals

Guilty Starting Point +5 Red Dwarf Petals

Melancholious Starting Point +9 White Giant Petals

Relaxed3 Starting Point +5 Red Dwarf Petals

Relaxed3 Starting Point +7 Hatch's Bud Petals

Sorrowful1 Starting Point +5 Hatch's Bud Petals

Sorrowful1 Starting Point +4 Red Dwarf Petals

Researched Starting Points

The following combinations of starting points and flower petals have been researched. On a few occasions, I have researched the same combination twice, and found the same results were produced. I have not kept data on the optimal quality points, only the feelings produced.

Starting point feelings, available without adding flower petals: Gentle, Giddy, Guilty, Hopeful, Melancholious, Relaxed, Sorrowful, Vengeful.
Additional feelings seen only after adding flower petals: Invigorating, Joyous, Mischievious, Serene, Suspicious, Troubled.
Vengeful + PA: SP-18 Vengeful, 19-20 Hopeful
Guilty + NB: SP Guilty, 1-7 Relaxed, 8-20 Serene
Hopeful 1 + WG: SP-1 Hopeful, 2-20 Vengeful
Giddy + OS: SP-20 Giddy
Vengeful + RD: SP-4 Vengeful, 5-20 Giddy
Sorrowful 1 + SL: SP Sorrowful, 1-2 Relaxed, 3-20 Joyous
Guilty + OS: SP Guilty, 1-4 Sorrowful, 5 Vengeful, 6-20 Giddy
Relaxed 1 + PG: SP-20 Relaxed
Hopeful 2 + GL: SP-20 Hopeful
Petals Tested --->
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Starting Points
Golden- leaves Hatch's Bud Night Bloom Onion Skin Panto- mime Pink Giant Red Dwarf White Giant Serene Lagoon Orchid
Gentle Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png
Giddy Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png
Guilty Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png
Hopeful 1 Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png
Hopeful 2 Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png
Melancholious Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png
Relaxed 1 Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png
Relaxed 2
Relaxed 3 Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png
Sorrowful 1 Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png
Sorrowful 2 Green tick.png * Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png
Vengeful Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png Green tick.png


Goldenleaves SP Sorrowful 2 has not been tested past 10 petals added

Gentle SP: Fully tested for Rose petals.

  • Troubled: add 4 PG.

Sorrowful1 SP: Fully tested for Rose petals.

  • Serene: add 8 PA or 6 NB or 4 GL.
  • Troubled: add 5 HB or 4 RD.
  • Joyous: add 3 Serene Lagoon Orchid petals

Guilty SP: Fully tested for Rose petals.

  • Serene: add 4 GL or 8 NB or 9 PA
  • Troubled: add 5 RD or 7 HB
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