Orrin Thistle Talk

Orrin: right, does everyone have a copy of it now?

Tammie: i do

Orrin: right

Orrin: There are no night-time voids right now

Orrin: so let's have a basic runthrough

Orrin: when you open it, there should be a grey table, two yellow ones, and a green column

Orrin: The grey table is where you put in the clicks for dung/Sp/Water/Oxy, and the sun Level

Orrin: let's start off basic, and add 3 water and oxy

Orrin: On the Tick0 row, add them in under their respective columns

Orrin: you should see the yellow boxes change

Orrin: they are telling you what is there at each tick

Orrin: the left yellow box tells you the Dung/Sp/Water/Oxy/Sun levels at that tick, and the right one tells you the nutrient levels

Orrin: if you look at the small box with the red header, right at the bottom, that's the output

Orrin: B+F+ atm, that's 'standard' outpu

Orrin: now the green column

Orrin: This is a binary system, if you put in '1' it means the reaction happens. Put in 0, the reaction doesn't

Orrin: so, to demonstrate, find the '1' beside the '10 Nia -> 30 fol' entry, and change that to a 0

Orrin: that means now that the conversion of 10 Nia to 30 Fol is 'Voided'

Orrin: You can see now on both the yellow, right hand sheet, that fol is now 39, as opposed to 99, and Thi is now 99

Orrin: The small red-topped box has also changed to reflect that

Orrin: B+F~T+

Orrin: So that's the basics of the Thistle Sim

Orrin: Any questions before I move on to working out recipes?

Wampak: will the working out recipies also cover finding out what the voids are?

blondie: can we get a log of this chat?

Orrin: Log: no, blame teppy and the guy that stole P! off of me xD

Orrin: Wampak: that will be all the way at the end

Wampak: k

Dagny: i'll try to keep copying the chat and put up on wiki later

Orrin: ok

Tammie: will you make yourself available for questions at another time for those of us that can't stay for the entire session? i have to leave in 10 minutes so i'm gonna miss out on the rest of it

Orrin: for you dear, I'm always available

Tammie: yay ty

Hanid: I will try to copy it and put it up somewhere

Orrin: Yeh, feel free to drop me a chat, just be aware it might be Ary logged in as me, I try and answer new chats as they come

ShuoftheFieryHeat: im sorry I missed the chat - but that last zip download crashed my system

Orrin: And for those of you with problems like Shu, get yourself a mac....

ShuoftheFieryHeat: I got a working copy of the excel from firegolem - I would guess its not a windows problem but the download is not being encoded as binary - more of a wiki problem

Orrin: no, it's a problem with your computer

Orrin: and unless the wiki has quantum mechanics, it know nthing other than binary ;)

Hanid: Orrin, did you already talk about finding voids before I stumbled in to Fun

ShuoftheFieryHeat: anyway mute point - got the SS now thanks

ShuoftheFieryHeat: nope - I download junk all the time but from the T4 wiki - sometimes it doesnt work - I get stuff from all over just fine thank you

Orrin: nope Hanid

Orrin: (sec, gotta land on the wall again)

Hanid: Oh goo

Aryballa: if its me logged in as Orrin I typically don't read the chats in case they are private...but the real orrin will answer when he logs on

Orrin: so your chats to me are safe Tammie ;D

Orrin: Alright

Orrin: This next bit is the harder bit

Orrin: Change that '0' back to a '1'

Orrin: I'm going to attempt making F~N+P+T-, note attempt ;)

Hanid: I would rather you made A+F-N+P-T+ roflmao

Orrin: Ok, I'll try it ;)

Orrin: Ah no I wont, Asc is a sun thing

Orrin: Dont have sun voids yet

Hanid: just kidding anyway

Spooner: my brain has a void

Orrin: ok, so if we look at the top of the right side yellow column...

Orrin: the one that deals with the nutrients

Orrin: It looks like there's a conversion to bio, car and nia

Orrin: However, lesson #1

Orrin: Void the Nit->Asc reaction (that green column remember?)

Orrin: Notice that the Nia goes? That's because the Nit is being converted to Asc, then through reactions to Nia.

Orrin: This is very very important. Reactions happen in the order that they are in on the sheet.

Orrin: So first off, Nit is converted to Asc

Orrin: Then, that Asc is converted to Nia *In the Same Tick*

Orrin: I wanna make sure everyone follows that

Orrin: any questions?

Orrin: none?

Hanid: I am waiting to hear about loops, but that is later I think

Orrin: that's later yup

blondie: well, nit is (dung), but asc and nia are nutrients?

Dagny: for those just joining in, i'm keeping a log here:

Dagny: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale4/Orrin_Thistle_Talk