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Guilds/HHOFW/mats

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This page lists the materials needed to run a vigil, and will show the inventories and targets of the various materials.

Credits

This list was developed using the list prepared by Shivani reflecting T3 vigils as a starting point. That list proved quite accurate and extremely helpful, and we extend warm thanks to Shivani for the work that went into its preparation (and for the donations to the HHoF Worship guild in T3). We will try to improve the accuracy of the numbers in this list as we gain more experience with T4 vigils.

Donations

Always Welcome!!!!!!

The elders of the HHoFW guild do try to gather as many mats as possible, but as a quick scan of the list should make clear, the amount of mats required is prodigious. Our success with vigils in the past, and, undoubtedly, our future success, is dependent on the wonderful folk who keep our chests filled.

Always Needed!!!!

Clearly, a comparison of the "On Hand" column to the "Safe Target" below will show which items we have the most pressing immediate for, but HHoFW plans to run vigils regularly and frequently, so any item in the list you can help with will help a vigil succeed at some point.

Always Appreciated!!!!!

T4 Info

Of note: vegetable seeds and blacksmithed items (possibly limited to shovels) are requested. However, these requests are quite rare; data from one 1500 sac vigil suggests these requests, in total, might be around .5% of all requests, meaning this is nowhere near as onerous as if these items were treated like the other 86 sacrifice items. I have added a special section in the mats list below for these items. For now I'm assuming that the tools requests are limited to shovels and, possibly, carp blades. Carp blades should be no issue at all since we should have a supply for our carp shops on hand.

It is ore instead of metal now being requested (and in the same numeric quantities -- so this is a much easier item now, except silver). (Elders: please leave whatever metal we have in vigil storage. Given Teppy's acknowledgement that the early tale furnaces are overly ore hungry, and that the blast furnace and others to come change this, the switch to ore might be temporary.)

I'm accumulating a datbase of vigil sac requests, and have adjusted the numbers below based on the observations I have, projected to 1250 sacrifices and weighted about 50-50 with T3 numbers. (I have data for 922 sacs in my database so far. Of course, this is much too small an observation set to rely on at this point.) In general, the numbers are in line with T3; fish might be slightly higher, flax may be no longer requested, though all the other flax items are.

Comments

• The "Avg. Requirement" column is the mean amount required for a 1250 sacrifice vigil (this was the normal number of sacs accomplished in a T3 vigil extending from dinner time Friday until late afternoon Sunday). However, in any given vigil, the actual amount of any given material requested can vary substantially from this mean.

• The "Safe Target" column is the amount which should be on hand to insure, given the variance in amounts requested for a given vigil, that we will not run out of that material. Note that the amount here reflects the ease or difficulty of manufacture or collection of the given item. For example, the "safe" amount for crucibles is not terribly greater that the mean required amount, since we will have Mason's Benches near the vigil site and can easily generate more if demand is high. However, the safe amount for medium stones is well above the mean required amount, to insure there is a supply for crucible and nail mould manufacture, and reflecting the difficulty (you try to organize a dig in the middle of the night!) of gathering more on short notice.

• We believe this is the complete list. Note that, for example, large gems, cactus sap, metals (as opposed to ores), serpent fish, forged items, glass, grilled vegetables, flystones, gravel were never asked for.

The List

Item On Hand Avg. Requirement Safe Target Comments
Abdju Fish 581 832 1200
Aluminum Ore 15 30 100
Antimony Ore 120 28 100
Ash 328 196 300 no potash, ONLY ash.
Baskets 8 19 19 baskets are 200 dried papy EACH
Beeswax 1954 1841 2250
Boards 1415 4569 6200
Bricks 3500 4734 5500
cabbage 1326 1265 1700
camel meat 2955 1598 2100
camel milk 253 148 250
canvas 4 351 400
carp 583 1390 1850
carrots 548 707 1200
catfish 1016 1170 1600
Charcoal 1302 1767 2700
chromis 693 798 1400

Item On Hand Avg. Requirement Safe Target Comments
clay 1201 767 3300
clay mortars 142 222 270 not wet, just fired
copper ore 180 89 150
crucible 17 109 135
cut stone 51 506 600
cutable stone 1187 363 600
Dirt 337 1203 1400
Dried Flax 1939 2525 2900
Dried Pappy 2044 698 1250
Dung 2266 717 1000
Firebricks 5755 10091 13000 not wet, just fired
Flimsy Brick Racks 591 500
Flint 208 80 150
garlic 1291 1390 1850
Gold Ore 150 28 100

Item On Hand Avg. Requirement Safe Target Comments
Grilled Fish 918 1594 2700 Note that you do not need grilled veggies. Only fish.
Honey 550 1063 1450
Iron Ore 200 94 200
Jugs 1488 2333 3700 not wet, just fired
Lead Ore 119 42 100
Leather 1372 1282 1650
Leeks 291 887 1300
Lime 88 225 325
Limestone 976 848 1200
Linen 43 207 275
Lint 990 756 1000
Lithium Ore 100 45 120
Magnesium Ore 69 35 100
Med Diamond 80 35 80
Med Emerald 50 45 100
Med Quartz 110 37 100
Med Ruby 106 38 100
Med sapphire 80 35 80
Med Stone 106 58 230
Med Topaz 100 41 100

Item On Hand Avg. Requirement Safe Target Comments
Mutton 2221 1776 2200
Oil 1609 969 1200
Onions 2031 991 1500
Oxy Fish 211 593 1000
Pappy 2144 1261 3000
Perch 1570 1285 2000
Phagrus 52 467 900
Pulley 10 134 180
Rope 113 1044 1200
Rotten Flax 2543 2429 4000
Saltpeter 210 126 200
Silt 2600 4646 7500
Silver 100 27 100
Slate 1666 650 2400 between slate, stone blades and slate shovels (2 slate ea) you will need LOTS of slate
Slate Shovel 259 222 300
Sm Diamond 241 181 350
Sm Emerald 297 170 350
Sm Quartz 578 149 350
Sm Ruby 491 159 350
Sm Sapphire 350 170 350
Sm topaz 350 146 350

Item On Hand Avg. Requirement Safe Target Comments
Stone Blade 31 933 500
Straw 2139 3368 4200 grass is not called for, only straw
Strontium Ore 100 38 100
Sulfur 300 162 300 sulfurous water is not called for, only sulphur
Thorns 5374 5266 7500
Thread 2701 4122 4500
Tilapia 1402 695 1100
Tin Ore 100 38 100
Titanium Ore 261 27 100
Tow 390 1291 1500
Tungsten Ore 30 100
Twine 169 735 950
Wood 2470 4561 13000
Zinc Ore 147 48 110

Other Mats Needed

Item On Hand Target Comments
Flax 320 4000 Seems to not be requested in T4; we want a supply on hand to be able to make flax products
Iron 75 100 For construction and blacksmithing
Shovel 7K+ 3 2 Will be requested; need several qualities
Shovel 6K+ 3 2 Will be requested; need several qualities
Shovel 5K+ 2 Will be requested; need several qualities
Carp Blades 20 Might be be requested; need a bunch to support our carpentry shops
Cabbage Seeds 8 8
Carrot Seeds 4 8
Garlic Seeds 8 8
Leek Seeds 8
Onion Seeds 8 8
Hookah 1 1 The RedCrowley Memorial Bong. Donor gets naming rights
Herbs Lots Variety rather than quantity. So the donor of the hookah doesn't feel like it was wasted effort