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User:Yerbouti/cherry cinnamon

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The Search for Cherry Cinnamon Beer

I have been doing yeast tests all around my Y24 (cinnamon) yeast spot looking for Y10 (cherry) and my best spot found is this:


Adn: 786, 7118


Brief Description: Nonalcoholic Soup

--- Alcohol:

0 --- --- Color: 0 --- --- Mold: 0 --- --- Vitamins: 0 ---

--- Glucose (sweet): 0 --- --- Maltose (sweet): 0 --- ---

Lactose (sweet): 0 ---

--- Citric Acid (sour): 0 --- ---

Lactic Acid (sour): 0 --- --- Acetic Acid (sour): 0 ---


Microbes Detected: Yeast-24 Acetobacter-30

Lactobacillus-12 Yeast-10 Lactobacillus-53

Lactobacillus-92 Yeast-72 Yeast-49 Acetobacter-62

Yeast-19 Yeast-32 Yeast-16 Acetobacter-94 Yeast-89

Lactobacillus-36 Lactobacillus-61 Yeast-2 Mold-31

Yeast-8



Then I attempted a test beer here with 150 Honey and 20 Raw Malt at start, nothing at finish and open kettle.

Brief Description: Grassy Beer

--- Alcohol: 1225 --- --- Color: 20 --- --- Mold: 0 --- --- Vitamins: 98 ---

--- Glucose (sweet): 295 --- --- Maltose (sweet): 100 --- --- Lactose (sweet): 0 ---

--- Citric Acid (sour): 0 --- --- Lactic Acid (sour): 0 --- --- Acetic Acid (sour): 0 ---

--- Barley Flavor (pleasant): 236 --- --- Orange Flavor (fruity): 23 --- --- Banana Flavor (fruity): 23 --- --- Cherry Flavor (fruity): 221 --- --- Date Flavor (fruity): 103 --- --- Honey Flavor (fruity): 162 --- --- Nutmeg Flavor (slightly bitter): 61 --- --- Cinnamon Flavor (slightly bitter): 533 --- --- Tannin Flavor (very bitter): 118 --- --- Grassy Flavor (unpleasant): 287 --- --- Nasty Flavors (unpleasant): 47 ---

Microbes Detected: Yeast-24 Acetobacter-30 Lactobacillus-12 Yeast-10 Lactobacillus-53 Lactobacillus-92 Yeast-72 Yeast-49 Acetobacter-62 Yeast-19 Yeast-32 Yeast-16 Acetobacter-94 Yeast-89 Lactobacillus-36 Lactobacillus-61 Yeast-2 Mold-31 Yeast-8


Now I can use help from smarter beer makers - the cinnamon flavor is more than double the cherry although both are strong enough. Is there a way to boost the cherry flavor?


When I make good beers, the cinnamon overpowers the cherry, but on my grassy failures I can actually get the charry up and the cinnamon down. I don't understand it.


start 160H 15RM


Brief Description: Grassy Beer

--- Alcohol: 1274 --- --- Color: 15 --- --- Mold: 0 --- --- Vitamins: 78 ---

--- Glucose (sweet): 138 --- --- Maltose (sweet): 75 --- --- Lactose (sweet): 0 ---

--- Citric Acid (sour): 0 --- --- Lactic Acid (sour): 203 --- --- Acetic Acid (sour): 0 ---

--- Barley Flavor (pleasant): 177 --- --- Orange Flavor (fruity): 23 --- --- Banana Flavor (fruity): 24 --- --- Cherry Flavor (fruity): 307 --- --- Date Flavor (fruity): 62 --- --- Honey Flavor (fruity): 171 --- --- Nutmeg Flavor (slightly bitter): 70 --- --- Cinnamon Flavor (slightly bitter): 287 --- --- Tannin Flavor (very bitter): 89 --- --- Grassy Flavor (unpleasant): 215 --- --- Nasty Flavors (unpleasant): 35 ---

Microbes Detected: Yeast-24 Acetobacter-30 Lactobacillus-12 Yeast-10 Lactobacillus-53 Lactobacillus-92 Yeast-72 Yeast-49 Yeast-19 Acetobacter-62 Yeast-32 Yeast-16 Acetobacter-94 Yeast-89 Lactobacillus-36 Lactobacillus-61 Yeast-2 Mold-31 Yeast-8


start 160H 10RM


Brief Description: Vinegar Beer

--- Alcohol: 778 --- --- Color: 10 --- --- Mold: 0 --- --- Vitamins: 3 ---

--- Glucose (sweet): 86 --- --- Maltose (sweet): 50 --- --- Lactose (sweet): 0 ---

--- Citric Acid (sour): 0 --- --- Lactic Acid (sour): 313 --- --- Acetic Acid (sour): 433 ---

--- Barley Flavor (pleasant): 119 --- --- Orange Flavor (fruity): 13 --- --- Banana Flavor (fruity): 14 --- --- Cherry Flavor (fruity): 213 --- --- Date Flavor (fruity): 24 --- --- Honey Flavor (fruity): 165 --- --- Nutmeg Flavor (slightly bitter): 45 --- --- Cinnamon Flavor (slightly bitter): 75 --- --- Tannin Flavor (very bitter): 60 --- --- Grassy Flavor (unpleasant): 138 --- --- Nasty Flavors (unpleasant): 16 ---

Microbes Detected: Yeast-24 Acetobacter-30 Lactobacillus-12 Yeast-10 Lactobacillus-53 Lactobacillus-92 Yeast-72 Yeast-49 Yeast-19 Acetobacter-62 Yeast-32 Yeast-16 Acetobacter-94 Yeast-89 Lactobacillus-36 Lactobacillus-61 Yeast-2 Mold-31 Yeast-8


start 160H 10RM


Brief Description: Vinegar Beer

--- Alcohol: 778 --- --- Color: 10 --- --- Mold: 0 --- --- Vitamins: 3 ---

--- Glucose (sweet): 86 --- --- Maltose (sweet): 50 --- --- Lactose (sweet): 0 ---

--- Citric Acid (sour): 0 --- --- Lactic Acid (sour): 313 --- --- Acetic Acid (sour): 433 ---

--- Barley Flavor (pleasant): 119 --- --- Orange Flavor (fruity): 13 --- --- Banana Flavor (fruity): 14 --- --- Cherry Flavor (fruity): 213 --- --- Date Flavor (fruity): 24 --- --- Honey Flavor (fruity): 165 --- --- Nutmeg Flavor (slightly bitter): 45 --- --- Cinnamon Flavor (slightly bitter): 75 --- --- Tannin Flavor (very bitter): 60 --- --- Grassy Flavor (unpleasant): 138 --- --- Nasty Flavors (unpleasant): 16 ---

Microbes Detected: Yeast-24 Acetobacter-30 Lactobacillus-12 Yeast-10 Lactobacillus-53 Lactobacillus-92 Yeast-72 Yeast-49 Yeast-19 Acetobacter-62 Yeast-32 Yeast-16 Acetobacter-94 Yeast-89 Lactobacillus-36 Lactobacillus-61 Yeast-2 Mold-31 Yeast-8



start 150H / fin 5RM seal 850


Brief Description: Very Potent Fruity Spicy Sweet Beer. Noticeable cinnamon flavor.

--- Alcohol: 1215

--- --- Color: 1 --- --- Mold: 0 --- --- Vitamins: 130

---

--- Glucose (sweet): 290 --- --- Maltose (sweet):

25 --- --- Lactose (sweet): 0 ---

--- Citric Acid (sour):

0 --- --- Lactic Acid (sour): 0 --- --- Acetic Acid (sour):

0 ---

--- Barley Flavor (pleasant): 11 --- --- Orange

Flavor (fruity): 23 --- --- Banana Flavor (fruity): 23 --- --- Cherry Flavor (fruity): 160 --- --- Date Flavor (fruity):

138 --- --- Honey Flavor (fruity): 163 --- --- Nutmeg

Flavor (slightly bitter): 55 --- --- Cinnamon Flavor

(slightly bitter): 735 --- --- Tannin Flavor (very bitter): 6

--- --- Grassy Flavor (unpleasant): 73 --- --- Nasty

Flavors (unpleasant): 57 ---

Microbes Detected:

Yeast-24 Acetobacter-30 Lactobacillus-12 Yeast-10


26 H at start 124 H at 761 5RM at 20


Brief Description: Very Potent Fruity Spicy Sweet Beer. Bold cinnamon flavor.

--- Alcohol: 1251 --- ---

Color: 1 --- --- Mold: 0 --- --- Vitamins: 108 ---

---

Glucose (sweet): 254 --- --- Maltose (sweet): 25 --- ---

Lactose (sweet): 0 ---

--- Citric Acid (sour): 0 --- ---

Lactic Acid (sour): 0 --- --- Acetic Acid (sour): 0 ---

--- Barley Flavor (pleasant): 11 --- --- Orange Flavor

(fruity): 24 --- --- Banana Flavor (fruity): 24 --- ---

Cherry Flavor (fruity): 87 --- --- Date Flavor (fruity): 190

--- --- Honey Flavor (fruity): 228 --- --- Nutmeg Flavor

(slightly bitter): 49 --- --- Cinnamon Flavor (slightly

bitter): 1018 --- --- Tannin Flavor (very bitter): 6 --- ---

Grassy Flavor (unpleasant): 90 --- --- Nasty Flavors

(unpleasant): 72 ---

Microbes Detected: Yeast-24

Acetobacter-30 Lactobacillus-12 Yeast-10

Lactobacillus-53 Lactobacillus-92 Yeast-72 Yeast-49

Yeast-19 Acetobacter-62 Yeast-32 Yeast-16

Acetobacter-94 Yeast-89 Lactobacillus-36

Lactobacillus-61 Yeast-2 Mold-31 Yeast-8