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Vegetable

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Vegetables refer to the various edible plants which can be grown and harvested from seeds. All vegetables can be grilled in a Firepit or cooked in a Kitchen; most have other uses as well.

Egypt currently has access to five vegetables: cabbages, carrots, garlic, leeks and onions. Prior tellings have also featured cucumbers, eggplants, peppers and watermelons, but these have yet to make an appearance in Tale 5.


How To Grow

All vegetables are grown from Vegetable Seeds. Vegetables can only be planted in the proper terrain: grass for cabbages and carrots, sand for garlic, leeks and onions.

All five vegetables are grown in the same way. Planting a seed produces a tiny vegetable; this must be watered from a jug quickly or it will die back into a seed. A vegetable that has been watered will soon grow to the next larger size, at which time it must be watered again or it will shrink. When a vegetable reaches maximum size, it may be harvested. It takes 4 waterings to bring a vegetable to full size (assuming no mistakes along the way).

To sum up: Water upon planting, then again each time the vegetable changes size. With the exception of onions, overwatering (watering more then once between growths) will result in it dying and reverting to seed.

If you know of a location that produces a good yield please post the coordinates.

Note on Achievements and seed reproduction: Pharaoh has 77 known ("heard of") Achievements. If one compares Achievements with Pharaoh, one obtains all 77. That is where the seed reproduction Achievements came from. Incidentally, Pharaoh had only accomplished two or three achievements when I compared with him. -- Ouijdani

List of Vegetables

Cabbage

In Celaeno, I get cabbage yields of 9 at -2420, 192 and 18 at -2398, -1 (Daetrin)
verified 18 cabbage at -2398, -1 (elmer)

Verified cabbage are shy. When harvesting while a person other than the planter is standing close (as if to acro), 0 yield, 1 seed. In fact yield seems to be half the normal quantity, rounded down. I got a yield of 9 at the 18 spot above, and a yield of 5 with a player nearby at a spot of 10 yield when alone. -TME


Reproduction: Unknown, but achievement of this is out there
NOT with stamina maxed out
NOT growing near several herbs
NOT growing by a common altar
NOT with Endurance Maxed out
NOT with a beetle dropped next to before harvesting (used a Burrowing(F) beetle)
NOT growing near apiary
NOT growing near a fresh mushroom (Acorn's Cap)
NOT when grown near flaming altar
NOT when grown near dromedary pen with 1 male and 1 female inside
NOT after eating a single herb
NOT while under effect of a single herb
NOT when growing near a date palm
NOT growing near a coconut palm
NOT after harvesting coconuts
NOT growing near a brick rack
NOT growing with carrots

Carrots

Carrot yields are based upon a wave timer. (in some areas of the game)

Only one data point, but I suspect carrots may prefer to be on higher ground away from water. Yield of 3 next to a river, moved to a nearby higher area away from the water, saw yields of 9 within 5 minutes.

Reproduction: Unknown
NOT growing near several herbs
NOT with endurance maxed
NOT with beetle dropped before harvesting (used Burrowing(F) beetle)
NOT when growing next to apiary
NOT growing near a fresh mushroom (Acorn's Cap)
NOT when grown near flaming altar
NOT when grown near dromedary pen with 1 male and 1 female inside
NOT when growing near a date palm
NOT growing near a coconut palm
NOT after harvesting coconuts

In case anyone is trying to track the wave timers:
- from approximately 5:50pm (game time) 4-5 yield
- 5:55pm 6-7 yield
- 6:00pm 8 yield
- 6:01pm-6:10pm 7 yield
All planted on the same spot in Merope -1575, 7045

- 10:20am 12 yield
Planted @ 705 5545 Taygete

Garlic

Known yields range from 1 to 12 and every character has their own unique places to get more than 1.

On a tip from galahad, I tried planting near the Merope-Taygete border at the Mediterranean (around -5, 7545)- he reported a better onion yield, and a 2 garlic yield there. My yield was 7 garlic there, versus 1 garlic a hundred or so coords away. I started my way northwest and here are the garlic yields I got (sidenote: if I recall correctly the onion yield dropped back to 4 at least at the -307, 7702 spot):
7 yield @ (-3, 7548)
8 yield @ (-2, 7572) & (-10, 7598) & (-7, 7620)
10 @ (-10, 7682) & (-5, 7712) & (-4, 7751)
11 @ (-4, 7801) & (-307, 7702)
Note the area in which I could get 11 yield was at least 300x100 coords. (tehm YI-Akhet-I-13)
I also heard 3rd hand reports that another player found an 11 yield @ (-1112, 4786)
I get a 12 garlic yield at Celaeno -2030, -374, in an area slightly worse for onions than the surroundings. Only 1 garlic yield to another player who lived nearby. -Somebob



Reproduction: Unknown
NOT when growing near a cactus
NOT when a beetle is dropped before harvesting (used Burrowing(F) beetle)
NOT with endurance maxed
NOT when growing next to apiary
NOT growing near a fresh mushroom (Acorn's Cap)
NOT grown near a sheep pen
NOT growing near several herbs
NOT in proximity to trees, herbs, thorny plants, roads, palm trees, meditation altars
NOT in high altitudes
NOT allowing it to grow to harvest size, then wither to just before seed, then regrowing
NOT with 2, 3, or 4 waterings per stage
NOT on a slope
NOT when grown near dromedary pen with 1 male and 1 female inside
NOT when grown next to a smouldering-out firepit.
NOT growing with onions
NOT growing at a public dig, or a bauxite one
NOT growing near a brick rack

Leeks

In Caelano, I get yields of 18 at (-2422, -32) (Daetrin)
I also get yields of 18 at (-2422, -32) (Skyfeather)

A map of yields (including the one above) is being compiled at User:Kasiya/LeekTest. The bottom map is manually filtered to show yields above 3. Please feel free to edit the top map with any additional points :)

Reproduction: Unknown*
*Apparently the Achievement is now going around that this has been accomplished (Y1 Akhet I-18) - anyone know how?
NOT when endurance is maxed
NOT when focus is maxed
NOT when growing near apiary
NOT when growing near cactus
NOT growing near a fresh mushroom (Acorn's Cap)
NOT growing near several herbs
NOT when grown near dromedary pen with 1 male and 1 female inside
NOT when grown next to a smouldering-out firepit.
NOT when growing near a date palm
NOT when grown after harvesting onions, cabbage, garlic, or carrots.

I got an extra leek seed on Akhet I-28 around 3:30am. It was the first leeks I harvested after killing a female camel. Before that I grew cabbages, carrots and onions. Earlier today I got my first permanent END point, not sure if that matters. Need people to test! -Did not get one from killing a female camel or male sheep. Had 3 end but not permanent. (screenshot) (Aiko)

Onions

Yields a minimum of 4. Onions can not be overwatered but doing so may slow growth.
galahad tipped me off to a 9 yield around the Merope-Taygete border at the Mediterranean starting around (-5, 7545). The yield jumped was 9 there vs 4 about one hundred coords east. The 9 yield area continued at least 100 coords northwest from there.
9 yield @ (-5, 7545) and area Northwest on the Mediterranean. (tehm YI-Akhet-I-13)
9 yield at 1535, 2041 in Acl (Neferhotep)
10 yield at 1082, 1755 in AC1 (kabasto)
10 yield at 1075, 3857 in Taygete
12 yield at -2213, 7174 in Merope (Hexadeimos' camp)
12 yield at 2133, -1785 Sterope
13 yield at 235, 3490 Taygete near red sand (Thutamun)


Reproduction: Unknown, , but achievement of this is out there
NOT with focus maxed out
NOT with stamina maxed out
NOT with endurance maxed out
NOT when beetle is dropped before harvesting
NOT when growing near apiary
NOT when growing near a cactus
NOT when growing on a hill
NOT growing near several herbs
NOT when grown near dromedary pen with 1 male and 1 female inside
NOT when grown next to a smouldering-out firepit.
NOT after eating a single herb
NOT while under effect of a single herb
NOT when growing near a date palm
NOT when grown after a leek harvest
NOT when growing at a cuttable/medium public dig, or a bauxite dig

I have in my Achievements 'heard of growing an onion seed'. Any information on this would be greatly appreciated by Egypt.

- i heard these have come from comparing achievements with Pharaoh.

I have reproduced onion seeds by accident. Was using a macro to grow a batch of 16 when the macro messed up. I tried to pick up from where it broke, but I lost some of the onions and overwatered others. At the end 2 of the plants gave 0 onions and 2 seeds. After that I have retried many times to reproduce it but with no success. It is possible that I have picked a insect while getting water or even gathered some slate in the process. I definitely picked onion seeds from the ground before harvesting the two plants and they most certainly dropped in growth at some point.

Cucumbers

Achievement knowledge "Have heard of Cucumbers Grew a Seed" in T5

Watermelons

Achievement knowledge "Have heard of Watermelons Grew a Seed" in T5

Peppers

Unknown