User:Tungsten/Cooking

Log

23 December, 2009

I have started my cooking research yesterday. I did not find a clear theory on the properties of ingredients or how they affect the finished meal, all I have found was a table on the Recipes page. I have added a recipe or two, but I had a feeling that it was going nowhere.

I have seen Dachannien's Cooking Database of course, but it did not make too much sense to me at first sight. A serious amount of work, time and energy must have been put into it, and I really respect that, however, I was expecting some clear rules, a coherent system, or at least discussions on theories how things could work in Cooking. I have found none. This coordinate system I was seeing everywhere just confused me, and I have never seen a clear explanation on where those coordinates come from. Looking at Mortality's Cooking 1 Recipes, especially at the Number_Variations, I was getting really confused, and started to think that the whole concept we have on cooking so far needs an extensive review.

So I decided to disregard everything I had seen so far, and start the research from scratch.

As a first step, I started accumulating some raw data in the table below. What I have seen so far makes me believe that thinking in Base/Additive pairings in mostly incorrect. Yes, there are bases and additives, and their definitions also seems to be correct insofar that an ingredient with the highest amount is a base, the rest are additives. It also seems to be true that at cooking level 1 you can only use 1 base in a dish. However, it seems that stat bonuses have nothing to do with bases/additives, they only depend on the ratio of ingredients used. Then again, I may be completely wrong, especially since my Cooking skill is only 1 at the moment, so just about anything may turn out at higher levels.

For now, I am testing the qualities of the ingredients I have in abundance. Later on, I will add more and more ingredients as they become available in greater quantities, but for now I have to use what I have. I did not use herbs or mushrooms of any kind until now, and I expect some surprises once I start using them.

Anyway, looking at the data collected so far, I have come to believe that every ingredient has some sort of effect on stats, which is multiplied by the ratio of that given ingredient to all other ingredients in the pot. So, for example, Cabbage often gives 1 bonus point in Dexterity and Condition, unless it is offset by the other ingredient(s). It is probably more complex than that, but I lack the data to think any further yet. Duration also seems to be affected by pairings, or 'compatibility' of ingredients. It most probably depends on how well the ingredients 'match', but the function must be more complex, since duration also depends on ratio. There seems to be an optimal ratio for pairs of ingredients. This could have something to do with those mysterious coordinates I have seen on other Cooking related pages, but could not really make heads or tails of.

Recipe Data

• I do not measure time with a stopwatch. Duration is based on the ingame timestamp, so it is in teppyminutes. I eat the food, get the message: "You eat some <food>.", take note of the affected stats, and keep watching the stats. When they return to normal, I quickly check the timestamp on the above message, and record it.

• Row color:
  • red: the recipe did not result in anything edible
  • white: planned, not tried yet

2 Ingredients

Amount	Ingredient A	Amount	Ingredient B	Str	Dex	End	Spd	Con	Foc	Per	Duration (minutes)
1	Cabbage	6	Cabbage Juice
6	Cabbage	1	Cabbage Juice
1	Cabbage	6	Camel Meat		1			1			9
2	Cabbage	5	Camel Meat		1			1			9
3	Cabbage	4	Camel Meat		1			1			10
4	Cabbage	3	Camel Meat		1			1			9
5	Cabbage	2	Camel Meat		1			1			9
6	Cabbage	1	Camel Meat		1			1			9
1	Cabbage	6	Carrots	1						1	13
2	Cabbage	5	Carrots	1	1			1		1	13
3	Cabbage	4	Carrots	1	1			1		1	13
4	Cabbage	3	Carrots		1			1		1	13
5	Cabbage	2	Carrots		1			1		1	13
6	Cabbage	1	Carrots		1			1		1	13
1	Cabbage	6	Carrot Juice
6	Cabbage	1	Carrot Juice
1	Cabbage	6	Coconut Meat
6	Cabbage	1	Coconut Meat
1	Cabbage	6	Garlic
6	Cabbage	1	Garlic
1	Cabbage	6	Honey				1			1	7
6	Cabbage	1	Honey		1			1			7
1	Cabbage	6	Leek
6	Cabbage	1	Leek
1	Cabbage	6	Oil
6	Cabbage	1	Oil
1	Cabbage	6	Onions		-2		3	-2			15
4	Cabbage	3	Onions		-1		2	-1			19
6	Cabbage	1	Onions				2				16
1	Cabbage Juice	6	Camel Meat
1	Cabbage Juice	6	Carrots
6	Cabbage Juice	1	Carrots
1	Cabbage Juice	6	Carrot Juice	-1	-1			1		1	7
6	Cabbage Juice	1	Carrot Juice					1		1	7
1	Cabbage Juice	6	Coconut Meat	1				1		1	10
6	Cabbage Juice	1	Coconut Meat	1	1			1		1	10
1	Cabbage Juice	6	Garlic	1							1
6	Cabbage Juice	1	Garlic	1	1						1
1	Cabbage Juice	6	Honey
6	Cabbage Juice	1	Honey
1	Cabbage Juice	6	Leek	1	1		1				15
6	Cabbage Juice	1	Leek	1	1						15
1	Cabbage Juice	6	Oil
6	Cabbage Juice	1	Oil
1	Cabbage Juice	6	Onions
6	Cabbage Juice	1	Onions
1	Camel Meat	6	Carrots	1						1	8
6	Camel Meat	1	Carrots	1	1			1		1	8
6	Camel Meat	1	Carrot Juice
6	Camel Meat	1	Coconut Meat
1	Camel Meat	6	Coconut Meat
6	Camel Meat	1	Grilled Peppers
1	Camel Meat	6	Honey				1			1	14
6	Camel Meat	1	Honey		1			1		1	14
1	Camel Meat	6	Leek
6	Camel Meat	1	Leek
1	Camel Meat	6	Oil
6	Camel Meat	1	Oil
1	Camel Meat	6	Onions		-2		2	-2			8
6	Camel Meat	1	Onions		-1		2	-1			9
1	Carrots	6	Carrot Juice
6	Carrots	1	Carrot Juice
1	Carrots	6	Coconut Meat
6	Carrots	1	Coconut Meat
1	Carrots	6	Garlic
6	Carrots	1	Garlic
1	Carrots	6	Honey	1						1	7
6	Carrots	1	Honey	1						1	7
1	Carrots	6	Leek
6	Carrots	1	Leek
1	Carrots	6	Oil
6	Carrots	1	Oil
1	Carrots	6	Onions		-2		2	-2			11
6	Carrots	1	Onions	1						1	12
1	Carrot Juice	6	Coconut Meat					1	1	1	1
6	Carrot Juice	1	Coconut Meat					1	1	1	0
1	Carrot Juice	6	Garlic
6	Carrot Juice	1	Garlic
1	Carrot Juice	6	Honey
6	Carrot Juice	1	Honey
1	Carrot Juice	6	Leek				1		1	1	9
6	Carrot Juice	1	Leek	-1	-1				1	1	8
1	Carrot Juice	6	Oil
6	Carrot Juice	1	Oil
1	Carrot Juice	6	Onions
6	Carrot Juice	1	Onions
1	Coconut Meat	6	Garlic	1				1
6	Coconut Meat	1	Garlic								?
1	Coconut Meat	6	Honey
6	Coconut Meat	1	Honey
1	Coconut Meat	6	Leek
6	Coconut Meat	1	Leek
1	Coconut Meat	6	Oil
6	Coconut Meat	1	Oil
1	Coconut Meat	6	Onions
6	Coconut Meat	1	Onions
1	Garlic	6	Honey
6	Garlic	1	Honey
1	Garlic	6	Leek
6	Garlic	1	Leek
1	Garlic	6	Oil	1			1				12
6	Garlic	1	Oil	1			-1			-1	12
1	Garlic	6	Onions
6	Garlic	1	Onions
1	Honey	6	Leek
6	Honey	1	Leek
1	Honey	6	Oil
6	Honey	1	Oil
1	Honey	6	Onions
6	Honey	1	Onions
1	Leek	6	Oil
6	Leek	1	Oil
1	Leek	6	Onions
6	Leek	1	Onions
1	Oil	6	Onions
6	Oil	1	Onions

Ingredients

• Cabbage
• Cabbage Juice
• Camel Meat
• Carrots
• Carrot Juice
• Coconut Meat
• Garlic
• Honey
• Leek
• Oil
• Onions