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|Ash Centipede (Fresh)
 
|Ash Centipede (Fresh)
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|8:40 pm
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|8:40 PM
 
|Catfish, Carp
 
|Catfish, Carp
 
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|Bat Mite (Glazed)
 
|Bat Mite (Glazed)
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|8:30 am
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|8:30 AM
 
|Nile Mackerel
 
|Nile Mackerel
 
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|Blister Beetle (Fresh)
 
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|8:45 pm
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|Ayu
 
|Ayu
 
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|Clay Slug (Fresh)
 
|Clay Slug (Fresh)
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|10:30pm
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|10:30 PM
 
|Catfish, Cromis, Spiny Dogfish, Tilapia
 
|Catfish, Cromis, Spiny Dogfish, Tilapia
 
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|Clay Slug (Fresh)
 
|Clay Slug (Fresh)
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|1:40pm
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|1:40 PM
 
|Tilefish
 
|Tilefish
 
|Maia
 
|Maia
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|Footworm (Glazed)
 
|Footworm (Glazed)
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|9:30 am
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|9:30 AM
 
|Tigerfish
 
|Tigerfish
 
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|''unknown''
 
|''unknown''
 
|White Oniontail
 
|White Oniontail
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|Fruit Maggot (Fresh)
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|8:24 PM
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|Phagrus 4db
 +
|Sterope
 
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|-
 
|Glass Worm (Fresh)
 
|Glass Worm (Fresh)
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|''5:28 AM''
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|5:28 AM
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| Pancake Loach, River Crab (1db)
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|Pancake Loach, River Crab (1db)
 
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|Glass Worm (Fresh)
 
|Glass Worm (Fresh)
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|Glass Worm (Fresh)
 
|Glass Worm (Fresh)
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|11pm
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|11:00 PM
 
|River Crab
 
|River Crab
 
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|-
 
|Glass Worm (Fresh)
 
|Glass Worm (Fresh)
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|1:10p
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|1:10 PM
 
|Tigerfish
 
|Tigerfish
 
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|Glass Worm (Fresh)
 
|Glass Worm (Fresh)
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|2:26p
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|2:26 PM
 
|Carp
 
|Carp
 
|Sinai  
 
|Sinai  
 
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|Golden Asp (Fresh)
 
|Golden Asp (Fresh)
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|''1:55AM, 2:05AM''
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|1:55 AM, 2:05 AM
 
|Ayu, Phagrus
 
|Ayu, Phagrus
 
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|Horned Hookworm (Fresh)
 
|Horned Hookworm (Fresh)
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|''9:45pm''
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|9:45 PM
 
|Tilapia
 
|Tilapia
 
|Celaeno
 
|Celaeno
 
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|-
 
|Horned Hookworm (Fresh)
 
|Horned Hookworm (Fresh)
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|''5:31am''
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|5:31 AM
 
|Perch
 
|Perch
 
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|Needleworm(Fresh)
 
|Needleworm(Fresh)
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|2:14pm
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|2:14 PM
 
|Abdju
 
|Abdju
 
|Sinai
 
|Sinai
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|Nippleworm (Fresh)
 
|Nippleworm (Fresh)
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|6:47 pm
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|6:47 PM
 
|Nile Mackerel
 
|Nile Mackerel
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Orchid Hopper (Fresh)
 
|Orchid Hopper (Fresh)
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|''6:30 AM''
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|6:30 AM
 
|Bay Lobster
 
|Bay Lobster
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Orchid Hopper (Fresh)
 
|Orchid Hopper (Fresh)
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|''5:30 PM''
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|5:30 PM
 
|River Crab
 
|River Crab
 
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|-
 
|Orchid Hopper (Fresh)
 
|Orchid Hopper (Fresh)
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|''4:50 PM''
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|4:50 PM
 
|Chromis
 
|Chromis
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Orchid Hopper (Fresh)
 
|Orchid Hopper (Fresh)
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|''10:11pm''
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|10:11 PM
 
|River Crab (33 db)
 
|River Crab (33 db)
 
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|-
 
|Orchid Hopper (Fresh)
 
|Orchid Hopper (Fresh)
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|''4:46pm''
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|4:46 PM
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|Tilapia
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|Tilapia, Abjdu
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Orchid Hopper (Fresh)
 
|Orchid Hopper (Fresh)
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|''4:46pm''
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|7:41 PM
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|Abdju
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|Tilapia 3db, River Crab 2db
 +
|Sterope
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Orchid Hopper (Fresh)
 
|Orchid Hopper (Fresh)
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|''6:00 PM''
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|6:00 PM
 
|River Crab 5db
 
|River Crab 5db
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Orchid Hopper (Fresh)
 
|Orchid Hopper (Fresh)
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|''10:00 PM''
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|10:00 PM
 
|River Crab 22db
 
|River Crab 22db
 
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|-
 
|Orchid Hopper (Glazed)
 
|Orchid Hopper (Glazed)
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|''5:30 AM''
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|5:30 AM
 
|Tilapia
 
|Tilapia
 
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|Malapterurus
 
|Malapterurus
 
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|-
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|Pickle Slug(Fresh)
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|Pickel Slug(Fresh)
 
|''unknown''
 
|''unknown''
 
|Catfish
 
|Catfish
 
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|-
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|Pickle Slug(Fresh)
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|Pickel Slug(Fresh)
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|11am
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|11:00 AM
 
|Catfish
 
|Catfish
 
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|-
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|Pickle Slug(Fresh)
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|Pickel Slug(Fresh)
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| 7:30pm
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|7:30 PM
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| Abdju
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|Abdju
 
|Sinai
 
|Sinai
 
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|-
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|Pickle Slug(Fresh)
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|Pickel Slug(Fresh)
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|10:15pm
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|10:15 PM
 
|Catfish 2db
 
|Catfish 2db
 
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|-
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|Pickle Slug(Fresh)
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|Pickel Slug(Fresh)
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| 12:30am
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|12:30 AM
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| Phagrus
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|Phagrus
 
|Celaeno
 
|Celaeno
 
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|-
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|Pickle Slug(Preserved)
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|Pickel Slug(Preserved)
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|3:45am
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|3:45 AM
 
|Bay Lobster
 
|Bay Lobster
 
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|-
 
|Queen Maggot (Fresh)
 
|Queen Maggot (Fresh)
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|''1:40AM''
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|1:40 AM
 
|Spiky Dogfish
 
|Spiky Dogfish
 
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|Red Cricket(Fresh)
 
|Red Cricket(Fresh)
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|1:25pm
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|1:25 PM
 
|Tilapia
 
|Tilapia
 
|Sinai
 
|Sinai
 +
|-
 +
|Red Cricket(Fresh)
 +
|8:28 PM
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|Perch 2db
 +
|Sterope
 
|-
 
|-
 
|Ringed Wasp (Fresh)
 
|Ringed Wasp (Fresh)
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|''11:13pm''
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|11:13 PM
 
|River Crab, Catfish, Nile Mackerel
 
|River Crab, Catfish, Nile Mackerel
 
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|-
 
|Ringed Wasp (Fresh)
 
|Ringed Wasp (Fresh)
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|4:30pm
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|4:30 PM
 
|Abdju, Catfish
 
|Abdju, Catfish
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 +
|Ringed Wasp (Fresh)
 +
|7:35 PM
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|Catfish 2db
 +
|Sterope
 +
|-
 +
|Ruby Hornborrer (Fresh)
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|7:50 PM
 +
|Carp 6db
 +
|Sterope
 
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|-
 
|Sand Mite (Fresh)
 
|Sand Mite (Fresh)
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|''12:30PM, 12:43PM''
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|12:30PM, 12:43PM
 
|Tigerfish, White Oniontail
 
|Tigerfish, White Oniontail
 
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|''unknown''
 
|''unknown''
 
|Bay Lobster
 
|Bay Lobster
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|Slime Moth (Fresh)
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|8:33-8:45 PM
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|Ayu 18db, River Crab 4db
 +
|Sterope
 
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|Spittle Bug (Fresh)
 
|Spittle Bug (Fresh)
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|''4:10PM, 7:30 PM, 11:50 PM''
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|4:10PM, 7:30 PM, 11:50 PM
 
|Ayu
 
|Ayu
 
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|Spittle Bug (Fresh)
 
|Spittle Bug (Fresh)
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|6:30am, 4:20pm
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|6:30 AM, 4:20PM
 
|Carp, Chromis
 
|Carp, Chromis
 
|unknown, Sinai
 
|unknown, Sinai
 
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|Spittle Bug (Glazed)
 
|Spittle Bug (Glazed)
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|''3:30am''
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|3:30 AM
 
|Carp
 
|Carp
 
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|White Mealybug(Fresh)
 
|White Mealybug(Fresh)
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|6:30am
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|6:30 AM
 
|Carp
 
|Carp
 
|Sinai
 
|Sinai
 +
|-
 +
|White Mealybug(Fresh)
 +
|7:54 PM
 +
|Abdju 5db, Carp 2db
 +
|Sterope
 
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|-
 
|Wooly Aphid (Fresh)
 
|Wooly Aphid (Fresh)
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|6pm, 10pm
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|6:00 PM, 10:00 PM
 
|River Crab
 
|River Crab
 
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|6:30 AM
 
|6:30 AM
 
|Pancake Loach (Fresh)
 
|Pancake Loach (Fresh)
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|Wooly Aphid (Fresh)
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|8:04 PM
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|Tilapia 4db, River Crab 8db
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|Sterope
 
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Revision as of 19:46, 5 September 2010

General Information

You need to find insects to build a lure to fish.

Three skills are necessary:

  • Fly Fishing from the School of Body to build the fly fishing rod (a rod is given to you upon learning the skill
  • Arthropodology from the School of Worship to find insects while doing random activities in game
  • Fly Tying from the School of Worship to build the lure

Making a lure requires an insect, 2 Thread, and 1 Thorn. It is built by going to the Skills menu and clicking Fly Tying.

Results

If you are lucky, and are using an effective combination of lure, location, and time, you will catch a fish, which will immediately go into your inventory.

Failure messages include one of the following (the precise meaning of the various failure messages is still being worked out):

  • "No fish bit. Try different lures and locations."
  • "You didn't catch anything. Try different lures and locations."
  • "You almost caught an odd fish, but you were too late recognizing the bite."
  • "You almost caught an unusual fish, but you were not quick enough."
  • "You almost caught a strange fish, but this rod was just too clumbsy"

Additionally, there is a small chance of losing your lure with each failure.

Standing in one spot, over about 15 casts with the same lure, I received two of the different failure messages, "No fish bit..." and "You didn't catch anything..." But I also caught 5 different fish (Catfish, Perch, Chromis, Catfish, Carp). So getting a failure message isn't indicative of no fish in the area.

Skill Costs

Skill School Degree Level to learn Cost
Fly Fishing Body First 1 16 Thread, 1 Sharpened Stick
Arthropodology Worship First 2 100 Dirt
Second 5 200 Tadpoles
Third 8 300 Beeswax
Fourth 11 400 Cactus Sap
Fly Tying Worship First 3 100 Thread, 25 Thorns
Second 6 7 Nippleworm, 7 Pickel Slug, 7 Leafhopper, 7 Fruit Maggot, 7 Woolly Aphid, 7 Slime Moth, 7 Rose Mite
Third 9 14 Footworm, 14 Clay Slug, 14 Snowberry Butterfly, 14 Woodmoth, 14 Red Cricket, 14 Honey Fly, 14 Skinlicker
Filleting Worship First 3 7 Knife Blade, 7 Phagrus Meat, 20 Common Basil
Second ? 3 Sharp Edged Blade, 14 Oxyrynchus Meat, 25 Salt, 77 Glass Jars

Insects

There are rumored to be 49 different species of Insects, split into 7 different classes.

  • Ash centipede
  • Blister Beetle
  • Bloodworm
  • Bristleworm
  • Clay Slug
  • Corkscrew Asp
  • Desert Millipede
  • Dew Fly
  • Feather Midge
  • Footworm
  • Fruit Maggot
  • Glass Worm
  • Golden Asp
  • Grass Slug
  • Hairy Slug
  • Honey Fly
  • Horned Hookworm
  • Leaf Hopper
  • Mud Asp
  • Needleworm
  • Nippleworm
  • Orchid Hopper
  • Oyster Mite
  • Pickel Slug
  • Queen Maggot
  • Red Cricket
  • Ringed Wasp
  • Rose Mite
  • Ruby Hornborrer
  • Salt Mite
  • Sand Mite
  • Skinlicker
  • Slime Moth
  • Snowberry Butterfly
  • Spittlebug
  • Stonefly
  • White Mealybug
  • White Sawfly
  • Woodmoth
  • Woolly Aphid

With the Arthropodology skill, can find insects while: Water mining, picking papyrus, collecting wood, thorns, slate, mud, dirt, harvesting flax, diving for pearls, carving wood, foraging, slaughtering sheep

Achievements

  • Found all 7 Tree Dwelling insects.--merek
  • Found all 7 Ground Dwelling insects.--meriamon
  • Found all 7 Water Dwelling Insects. -- NecasT

Notes

Some BETA experiences (from Detour):

I went out fishing with 2 Red cricket (Fresh) lures. Hopped to about 6 different locations and cast about 10 times before losing both lures with no fish caught. I was getting the messages, "No fish bit. Try different lures and locations," or, "No fish bit. You also lost your lure. Try different lures and locations."

Next I used a Woodmoth (Fresh) lure. I caught 3 fish before losing it. They were 7, 6, and 6 deben Malapterurus. I was standing at 777, -1428 at around 6:26 AM game time. I lost the lure on the same cast as catching a fish and didn't get a notice about it. It just disappeared from my inventory.
(Tanafri: On a successful fish catch, as I understand it, you will always lose the lure.) (Haraelendil: you don't always loose you lure on a succesfull catch)

Finally, I used a Wooly aphid (Fresh) lure. I got to cast it about 3 times from different locations before I lost it with no fish caught.

Some LIVE experiences (from Detour):

Location: -48, -2148

Time: Afternoon, 12 - 3 PM, roughly.

Lure Casts Fish Size in debens
" Abdju 4
Ringed Wasp (Glazed) 9 Catfish 2
" Abdju 1
Ringed Wasp (Fresh) 3 - -
Mud Asp (Glazed) 11 Carp 2
" Perch 2
" Catfish 2
Mud Asp (Fresh) 1 - -
Orchid Hopper (Glazed) 17 Tilapia 3
" Chromis 2
" Abdju 1
" Tilapia 1
Red Cricket (Glazed) 2 Perch 2
Sand Mite (Glazed) 15 Catfish 6
" "Unusual" 4 times
Slime Moth (Glazed) 35 Catfish 2
" Catfish 1
" Catfish 1


+2 Speed test - from Grilled Cabbage

Location: -48, -2148

Time: Afternoon, 4:30 - 6:00 PM, roughly.

Lure Casts Fish Size in debens
Sand Mite (Glazed) 24 Catfish 6
" Abdju 3
" Chromis 1
" Catfish 1
" Abdju 1
" Chromis 1
" Catfish 1
" "Unusual" 1 time
Sand Mite (Glazed) 9 Abdju 1
" "Unusual" 1 time
Sand Mite (Glazed) 44 Catfish 1
" Chromis 1
" Abdju 1
" Catfish 1
" Chromis 1
" "Unusual" 3 times
" "Odd" 1 time
Spittlebug (Glazed) 3 - -
Spittlebug (Glazed) 7 Carp 3
" Ayu 1
" Ayu 1
Spittlebug (Glazed) 9 - -


Kaayru: I was fishing at a small pond in Sterope (1626 -697) at 1:25pm. Got the message "You almost caught an unusual fish, but you were not quick enough." - Is speed a factor?

tehm: there is also a "You almost caught an odd fish, but were too late recognizing the bite" message. I tried Grilled Garlic (+foc)- no observable change. Next tried Grilled Carrots (+per) and was still getting the message. Maybe "recognizing" means "snaring" rather than "identifying" and Dex or Speed is needed to "recognize"?
(Tanafri: it's not the *fish* you're not recognizing, but the bite on the line.)


MynxFellswipe: It seems that fish size (in deben) decreases over time. I initially caught a 27db Ayu at 10pm, then gradually smaller (26, 25, 24...) as the hour passed. I had someone else fish next to me after some time. His fish sizes also started around the 26db mark and decreased steadily.

Saluk: I used Orchid Hopper to catch several 1db river crab in one spot (759 -5608) at around 6pm. Always 1db. Switched to Wooly Aphid and immediately caught a 5db river crab. Caught several more 5db with wooly aphid. The lure type definitely affects the size.

Tanafri: Fish has a bulk of 20, regardless of weight.

Akebono: Golden Asp catches big Ayu got 20,19,18,18,17 deben before I lost the lure

Khatz Fishing notes

Which lure for which fish

Lure Type Time of Day Fish Caught Region
Ash Centipede (Fresh) 8:40 PM Catfish, Carp
Bat Mite (Glazed) 8:30 AM Nile Mackerel
Blister Beetle (Fresh) unknown Hylian Loach
Blister Beetle (Fresh) 8:45 PM Ayu
Bloodworm (Fresh) unknown River Crab
Clay Slug (Fresh) 10:30 PM Catfish, Cromis, Spiny Dogfish, Tilapia
Clay Slug (Fresh) 1:40 PM Tilefish Maia
Footworm (Fresh) unknown Catfish
Footworm (Glazed) 9:30 AM Tigerfish
Fruit Maggot (Fresh) unknown White Oniontail
Fruit Maggot (Fresh) 8:24 PM Phagrus 4db Sterope
Glass Worm (Fresh) 5:28 AM Pancake Loach, River Crab (1db)
Glass Worm (Fresh) unknown Catfish, Phragrus
Glass Worm (Fresh) 11:00 PM River Crab
Glass Worm (Fresh) 1:10 PM Tigerfish
Glass Worm (Fresh) 2:26 PM Carp Sinai
Golden Asp (Fresh) 1:55 AM, 2:05 AM Ayu, Phagrus
Grass Slug (Fresh) unknown Hylian Loach
Grass Slug (Fresh) unknown River Crab
Horned Hookworm (Fresh) 9:45 PM Tilapia Celaeno
Horned Hookworm (Fresh) 5:31 AM Perch
Honey Fly (Fresh) unknown Ayu
Mud Asp (Fresh) 6:20 AM Moonfish
Mud Asp (Fresh) unknown Catfish
Mud Asp (Fresh) 1:40 AM Carp, Perch, Chromis
Mud Asp (Glazed) 4:15 AM Carp, Perch, Chromis
Needleworm(Fresh) 2:14 PM Abdju Sinai
Nippleworm (Fresh) unknown Catfish
Nippleworm (Fresh) 6:47 PM Nile Mackerel
Orchid Hopper (Fresh) 6:30 AM Bay Lobster
Orchid Hopper (Fresh) 5:30 PM River Crab
Orchid Hopper (Fresh) 4:50 PM Chromis
Orchid Hopper (Fresh) 10:11 PM River Crab (33 db)
Orchid Hopper (Fresh) 4:46 PM Tilapia, Abjdu
Orchid Hopper (Fresh) 7:41 PM Tilapia 3db, River Crab 2db Sterope
Orchid Hopper (Fresh) 6:00 PM River Crab 5db
Orchid Hopper (Fresh) 10:00 PM River Crab 22db
Orchid Hopper (Glazed) 5:30 AM Tilapia
Oyster Mite (Fresh) unknown Hylian Loach
Oyster Mite (Fresh) unknown Malapterurus
Pickel Slug(Fresh) unknown Catfish
Pickel Slug(Fresh) 11:00 AM Catfish
Pickel Slug(Fresh) 7:30 PM Abdju Sinai
Pickel Slug(Fresh) 10:15 PM Catfish 2db
Pickel Slug(Fresh) 12:30 AM Phagrus Celaeno
Pickel Slug(Preserved) 3:45 AM Bay Lobster
Queen Maggot (Fresh) 1:40 AM Spiky Dogfish
Red Cricket(Fresh) 1:25 PM Tilapia Sinai
Red Cricket(Fresh) 8:28 PM Perch 2db Sterope
Ringed Wasp (Fresh) 11:13 PM River Crab, Catfish, Nile Mackerel
Ringed Wasp (Fresh) 4:30 PM Abdju, Catfish
Ringed Wasp (Fresh) 7:35 PM Catfish 2db Sterope
Ruby Hornborrer (Fresh) 7:50 PM Carp 6db Sterope
Sand Mite (Fresh) 12:30PM, 12:43PM Tigerfish, White Oniontail
Slime Moth (Fresh) unknown Bay Lobster
Slime Moth (Fresh) 8:33-8:45 PM Ayu 18db, River Crab 4db Sterope
Spittle Bug (Fresh) 4:10PM, 7:30 PM, 11:50 PM Ayu
Spittle Bug (Fresh) unknown Catfish
Spittle Bug (Fresh) 6:30 AM, 4:20PM Carp, Chromis unknown, Sinai
Spittle Bug (Glazed) 3:30 AM Carp
White Mealybug(Fresh) 6:30 AM Carp Sinai
White Mealybug(Fresh) 7:54 PM Abdju 5db, Carp 2db Sterope
Wooly Aphid (Fresh) 6:00 PM, 10:00 PM River Crab
Wooly Aphid (Fresh) 6:30 AM Pancake Loach (Fresh)
Wooly Aphid (Fresh) 8:04 PM Tilapia 4db, River Crab 8db Sterope

Fish Scales

Scale Color Fish Type Time until Fillet (real time)
Black Ayu, Catfish, Perch, River Crab, Spiny Dogfish, White Oniontail, Carp ?
Brown Catfish ?
Crimson Catfish ?
Dark Gray Ayu, Abdju, Spiny Dogfish ?
Dark Turquoise Spiny Dogfish ?
Dark Green Bay Lobster, Tigerfish < 5mins
Dark Khaki White Oniontail ?
Dark Olive Green Carp, White Oniontail ?
Deep Sky Blue Spiny Dogfish ?
Dark Slate Blue Tilefish ?
Dark Slate Gray Abdju, Catfish, White Oniontail, Ayu, Spiny Dogfish, Carp ?
Dim Gray Ayu, Catfish, Spiny Dogfish ?
Gainsboro Perch ?
Golden Rod Carp ?
Gray Abdju, Ayu, Catfish, Perch ?
Indian Red Abdju ?
Light Sea Green Phagrus, Spiny Dogfish ?
Light Slate Gray Ayu ?
Lime Green Bay Lobster <10m
Indian Red River Crab ?
Indigo Pancake Loach ?
Light Slate Blue Tilapia ?
Maroon Perch ?
Medium Orchid Ayu ?
Misty Rose Catfish ?
Olive Drab Carp ?
Peru White Oniontail, Chromis ?
Pink Catfish ?
Plum Ayu ?
Rosy Brown Catfish ?
Saddle Brown River Crab, Chromis ?
Salmon Ayu ?
Sandy Brown White Oniontail, Chromis, Carp ?
Sienna Chromis, River Crab, White Oniontail ?
Silver Ayu ?
Slate Blue Tilapia ?
Teal Spiny Dogfish ?
Thistle Ayu ?
Violet Red Catfish ?

Ayu fish seem to tend to yield scales in the purplish range. -- Hekatef

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