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===Notes===
 
===Notes===
 
You may not give a gift to a player if you have given them one already in the past 24 hours. Gifts may only be made to citizens of Egypt.
 
You may not give a gift to a player if you have given them one already in the past 24 hours. Gifts may only be made to citizens of Egypt.
Delicate fish meat is a complex item, named for the type of fish from which it came. You do not have to catch the fish yourself, but it must be a freshly caught fish. You must filet the fish yourself.  If the delicate fish meat is given to another player, dropped, or placed into a storage container, it immediately spoils and cannot be used for gifts. It also spoils if left in your inventory for more than 24 hours. When delicate fish meat spoils, it becomes Rotten Fish. An assembled gift is preserved and so does not spoil, but you cannot give a gift to another player using the test menu if you did not assemble it yourself. You can drop and store gifts otherwise like normal complex item. If a gift is given using the Test menu it is immediately consumed by the gift recipient - and the recipient has 1 papyrus paper placed in their inventory (this is what was used to wrap the gift.)
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Delicate fish meat is a complex item, named for the type of fish from which it came. You do not have to catch the fish yourself, but it must be a freshly caught fish. You must filet the fish yourself.  If the delicate fish meat is given to another player, dropped, or placed into a storage container, it immediately spoils and cannot be used for gifts. It also spoils if left in your inventory for more than 24 hours. When delicate fish meat spoils, it becomes Rotten Fish. An assembled gift is under the same restrictions as delicate fish meat (since it still contains the meat) If a gift is given using the Test menu it is immediately consumed by the gift recipient - so no new items appear in the recipient's inventory.
  
 
===Filleting===
 
===Filleting===

Revision as of 18:14, 12 August 2015

Abstract

In the Test of the Giving Fisherman, you are tasked with making special gifts to give to other players. The thoughtful giver will be aware of the likes and dislikes of his recipient. Be the most generous and perceptive player in Egypt to pass this test!

A General Overview

  • 1. Catch a fish (Or trade/acquire a fresh fish)
  • 2. Fillet with a special knife (requires different levels of filleting skill)
  • 3. Generates delicate fish meat (this doesn't make fish scales, roe or oil like normal filleting)
  • 4. Acquire a fish scale and a citrus fruit
  • 5. Assemble a wrapped gift (fish meat wrapped in preserved fish scale, served with a citrus fruit)
  • 6. Present the gift to another player

A Detailed Overview

The Gift

To assemble a gift, you need: 1 Delicate fish meat, 1 fish scale, 1 citrus fruit, and 1 papyrus paper. Test of Giving Fisherman -> Assemble a gift. You can name the gift after assembly. The final gift is a complex item you must give to another player using the test menu when you click on them (similar to how you ask others to acro or compare achievements). They must accept your gift by choosing 'Yes'.

Scoring

Your gift is worth points based on how much a player likes (is compatible with) your gift. Each player has preferred fish meats, scale colors, and citrus fruits. You can receive up to 6 points if your gift perfectly matches a player's preferences. The amount of points you receive (or lose) is doubled if you give a gift to a player who has given you a gift before. Therefore, 12 points are possible from a single gift.

Preferences

There are 142 fish scale colors, 49 fish meats, and 104 citrus fruits in the game.

Pluribus: [04m] and there are 180 fish scale colors in t7 :-
    From the discussion in Monument of Body Guild ~ Balthazarr
    http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Monument_of_the_Human_Body
    You might want to up the number of favorite, liked & disliked to 18, 36 & 72 to match them increased colors ~ Balthazarr


Each player has 14 favorite colors, 5 favorite fish, and 10 favorite citrus fruits. You cannot choose these, they are tied uniquely and are generated from your avatar name (or some other manner). If a player gives you one of your favorite colors, they receive 2 points, likewise for the fruit type and fish type.

You also have 28 'Liked' colors, 10 liked fish, and 20 liked citrus. A player giving you one of these receives 1 point instead.

You also have 56 'Disliked' colors, 20 disliked fish, and 40 disliked citrus. A player giving you one of these receives -2 points. It is not possible to have less than 0 points total in this test, but you can lose points if you give bad gifts.

All other types of fish, colors, and fruits are 'neutral' for you and result in no points being awarded to the giver.

You can give multiple gifts to the same person (one per day), but take care not to give them the identical gift. If you give a player a gift made up of exactly the same materials of a gift you have given them before, they will be offended and will dislike all aspects of it (giving you -6 or -12 points!)

An Example of a Gift Giving

Janeway has prepared a gift to give to Picard. She used a Antique White fish scale, Delicate meat: Kingfish, and a Long Tangelo to make her gift. She gives the gift to Picard, who accepts it. She gets a message telling her that Picard enjoyed her gift overall (this means she gained points. There would be a different message if she gained no points and another for losing points.) Picard however receives a message indicating how exactly how he felt about the three aspects of the gift (a favorite color Antique White, a liked fruit Long Tangelo, and a disliked fish Kingfish) Janeway also knows that Picard had previously given her a gift a few weeks ago. From this, we can see how the points are calculated behind the scenes. (one of Picard's favorite colors (2) + liked fruits (1) + disliked fish (-2)) * Picard gave Janeway a gift before (2) = 2 points!

Checking your Score

To check your score, you must visit an Essence of Harmony. The essence will not tell you your exact numerical score but it will let you know how generous you are relative to your peers (defined as those who have not passed the test, are signed up for the test, and have given at least one gift.) You will get a different message if your score is in the top 5, 10, 25, 50, or 100 percent of peers. It is possible to keep track of your exact score on your own, but this requires that the gift recipient share with the gift giver or others the message they got upon receiving the gift, so that that player's likes and dislikes can be deduced.

Notes

You may not give a gift to a player if you have given them one already in the past 24 hours. Gifts may only be made to citizens of Egypt. Delicate fish meat is a complex item, named for the type of fish from which it came. You do not have to catch the fish yourself, but it must be a freshly caught fish. You must filet the fish yourself. If the delicate fish meat is given to another player, dropped, or placed into a storage container, it immediately spoils and cannot be used for gifts. It also spoils if left in your inventory for more than 24 hours. When delicate fish meat spoils, it becomes Rotten Fish. An assembled gift is under the same restrictions as delicate fish meat (since it still contains the meat) If a gift is given using the Test menu it is immediately consumed by the gift recipient - so no new items appear in the recipient's inventory.

Filleting

You must use special knife to fillet fish if you want to use it for gift-giving. This is a special form of filleting and has a high chance of failure. After all, no one wants jagged chunks of meat handed to them! If you have a ceremonial knife in your inventory, the option to use a ceremonial knife to fillet will be visible when choosing to fillet fish. You will automatically use the highest quality knife you have on you. You can only fillet one fish at a time, and doing so starts a long focus timer. The chance of success is greater with high levels of focus, filleting skill, and a good quality ceremonial knife. If you fail, the fish is destroyed and you must try again with a different fish, but this only activates a short focus timer.

16 focus + 7 filleting + Platinum ceremonial knife = 100% chance of success.

The % chance of success is calculated as follows: square root of Focus + (Filleting skill * (Filleting skill + 1)) + Knife bonus. The Knife bonuses are noted below.

Ceremonial Knife (made on a master forge)

Iron, 10 minutes

  • 1 Knife:Iron
  • 10 Iron
  • 2 resin: feather tree

Bronze, 30 minutes requires Filleting 1 to forge

  • 1 Ceremonial Iron knife
  • 10 Bronze
  • 6 resin: hokkaido

Silver, 90 minutes requires Filleting 2 to forge

  • 1 Ceremonial Bronze knife
  • 10 Silver
  • 18 resin: Passam

Gold, 270 minutes requires Filleting 3 to forge

  • 1 Ceremonial Silver Knife
  • 10 Gold
  • 54 Tapacae Miralis resin

Platinum, 810 minutes requires Filleting 4 to forge

  • 1 Ceremonial Gold Knife
  • 10 Platinum
  • 162 resin: Bloodbark
  • 1 Template: Platinum Ceremonial Knife (Given out as an event prize)


These knives add 1, 5, 10, 20, and 40% to your chance to fillet delicate fish meat respectively. You do not need to make your own knife, you can get one from someone else to use.

Passing

After 777 gifts have been given in Egypt, passing begins weekly, with the highest scoring player passing each week. Runners up are shown, and passes can be retained in the event of a tie.

Pluribus's Guild Chat

[16m] Pluribus has changed rank and become an Initiate.
[16m] Pluribus has joined the guild.
Kalmkitty: [16m] -welcome :) 
Pluribus: [15m] Hello.... Feedback on Giving fisherman...
Pluribus: [15m] Overall, I like it...  There are a few things that I dont like....
Pluribus: [15m] 1) would you use a piece of papyrus that had wrapped fish for any length of time?
Kalmkitty: [14m] that would be rather smelly
Pluribus: [14m] 2) Without the addition of any preservatives, I would make the gift rot in the same time that the delicate fish meat does.
Kalmkitty: [14m] smoked fish maybe? 
Pluribus: [13m] smoking would increase the time to spoil not stop it indefinately.
Kalmkitty: [13m] dried?
Pluribus: [12m] Ok, so fish jerky...  Have you tried eating even year old unwrapped jerky of any kind?
Kalmkitty: [12m] no way
Pluribus: [12m] or wrapped in just paper :-)
Pluribus: [12m] Exactly :-)
Pluribus: [11m] Anything you want people to "eat" even if just for a test, should expire.
Pluribus [10m] Ew you tried to poison me with this rotten gift box... begone and never try and give me anything again...
    (and you lose all points? :-)
Kalmkitty: [09m] works for me! but the receiver has to eat it right  away
Pluribus: [08m] Honestly, I dont see a case for WHY you want to let people hang on to them anyway....  They arent a food item...