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Revision as of 02:06, 1 September 2009

Guild info

For organizing an aqueduct for the Test of Life in Nomads' Paradise. Guild Hall is located at the coordinates -797, 2675 at the rivers edge.

Priorities

What are we stuck on? Behind with? Not gonna worry about sticking to a schedule - this is a game after all, but we can use the 100-day goal to determine what we're behind on.

Currently the focus should be on infrastructure, building the machines that do things with little tending needed. Choose a part you can supply, then note where you've put it after it's done.

  1. Barometer - Ikuu now has 2 and is doing some measurements
  2. Cut Stone - for Small Warehouses
  3. Digs for more Cuttable Stone and also Cement mats.
  4. 1500 Boards await treatment in NPAA #1

Planning Notes

Caveat: Most of this information and planning depends on info from previous tales. Some of the initial capacity for Raeli tiles will be directed toward Funerary Temples for the guild members, and stored at -1305,2700 until ready to distribute.


19 July. We are very close to being able to build the pump. Almost 9k concrete done and more than enough cement. Yellow and green tiles done, just 3k more pink. On the last warehouse of anycolor and around 12 to 15k of black and white needed.

We have supplies for a number of towers to get started, may need more concrete. I can't make head or tales of the tower map here so we may just wing that as we go.

28 July. Almost ready to go on the pump. We have all the tiles for the pump colors and some extra black/white. Mystivia has enough in ovens to finish up any color. All else for a pump is done. We need to know who is around to build in the first bit of tower building and make sure we have stuff ready for actual towers. Please add name to list below to help with the pump build (exact day/time still tbd) and get counted for first bunch of towers.

30 July - all the mats for pump build are done. Hope we can get together this weekend and go for it.:D

Voyna
TreekaSu
Zotep
Zaarain

1 August - All who have signed up here have built towers. Cistern has been upgraded once. The pump will need raising after 3 to 6 more towers have been built.


Upgrades

First one done

  • The next pump raising requirements are:
    • If you already have a gearbox that matches one of the above, please contact Voyna or Zotep about donating your gearbox


  • The next cistern upgrade requirements are:
    • ???/00 Tar
    • ???/00 Leather
    • ???/00 Canvas
    • ??/0 Cable


Previous Tale Info

  • Towers are placed in a regular hex grid pattern, precisely 20 coords apart.
  • Drinking from a tower cistern gives +1 to one attribute, for one teppy-day.
  • Each tower gives a 3x boost to one vegetable grown within 4 coords of tower.
  • Chance that a tower will benefit particular herb foraging within it's 256x256 square.
  • Moss, seemingly useful only for research, grows around each tower's cistern.
  • Tower height must be 5' or more over subsequent towers.
    • Need good quality barometer to gauge ground altitude to determine tower height.
    • Passing over raised terrain will reduce the costs of raising towers on that terrain.
    • Tower raising costs are incremental, linear and without upgrade penalty. Cost to height F is:
  • There is no apparent data regarding the cost for height F for the pumping station.

Built Towers

Builder Location Stat Veggie Herb Style
Voyna -800,2665 Focus None NOT: 3,6
Zaarain -819,2666 Strength None NOT: 3,6
Zotep -840,2666 Speed None NOT: 3,6
Treekasu -860,2666 Strength None NOT: 3,6
akc2 -880,2665 Dexterity None NOT: 3,6
Mystivia -899,2666 Focus None NOT: 6
Shukura -910,2648 Focus None NOT:
zara -919,2631 Constitution Onions NOT:
Anavlis -939,2631 Constitution None NOT:
falbala -950,2614 Strength None NOT:
aramix -970,2614 Constitution None NOT:
brados -990,2614 Endurance None NOT:
Salrilk -1000,2631 Speed None NOT:
Mailin -1019,2631 Constitution Garlic NOT:
makoto -1030,2648 Dexterity None NOT:
Aemon -1039,2666 Perception None NOT:
No1 -1019,2666 Constitution None NOT:
Blessed -1010,2683 Perception Peppers NOT:
Ikuu -1020,2700 Dexterity None NOT:
Tzalaa -1030,2718 Strength None NOT:
AmonWil -1049,2718 Speed Leeks NOT:

Herb Key

Once the herb a tower supports is known then the table will contain the full description, or "None" if it doesn't do any. Until then this key shows which foraging styles have been tested.

1. Cut away the outer stem
2. Harvest the Root pith
3. Trim the Root fibres
4. Snip the leaf stems
5. Peel back the stem base
6. Scrape off the stem pith
7. Remove the Tap Root
8. Pick out the seeds
9. Crush the stems
10. Pluck the leaves
11. Squeeze out the sap
12. Scrape away the leaf hairs

Route

An Aqueduct Pumping Station site has been found and is marked by the GH. An ambitious, potential NP Water Tower route stops at all major population hubs close to X/CS. Route is largely determined by the roads and the geography.

Surveying with a barometer is necessary to gauge the correct costs. A spreadsheet is currently maintained by Ikuu that calculates the individual tower costs given terrain elevation at each location. Using worst case numbers of 40' elevation at the end of otherwise flat terrain along the tower routes produces the following needs for each segment of the aqueduct:

Item Longest chain
(to SArch)
Branch
to SThought
Branch
to CS
Branch
to UArch
east of SArch
extension
Total
Bricks 440,750 134,500 20,500 37,000 6,250 639,000
Concrete 13,950 3,700 420 840 90 19,000
Cut Stone 10,474 2,780 316 632 68 14,270
Pipe segments 350 133 28 46 10 567

Resource Estimates

Estimates used in calculations:

  • Aqueduct Pump Costs.
  • Aqueduct Tower Costs.
  • All chains, with a 40' rise at the end of each.
  • Average of 320 tiles produced each day by any single oven.
  • Average 45 gravel/medium stone.
  • Cuttable Stones appear every 10 seconds in a 6 person dig.
  • Quarries produce a minimum of 13 marble each.

Time and material needed, major costs only, upper-bound:

Item For the full 82-tower aqueduct system Single path to CS
Raeli Tiles 331,000 - 207 days 310,000 - 194 days
Treated Boards 50,000 - 100 batches.
Marbles 300 - 24 quarries.
Bricks 639,000 353,000
Concrete 37,200 - 827 Med. Stone, 149 Concrete batches 24,920 - 554 Med. Stone, 100 Concrete batches
Cut Stone 14,270 - 9.9 dig-days 8210 - 5.7 dig-days
Pipe Segments 567 341
  • Assumes bricks are kept in machines until needed and
  • Raeli tiles are transported to site as they become available.

Note that a dig-day corresponds to the share of work done by one person in a group.

Goal Estimates

Using an arbitrarily chosen, ambitious goal of 100 RL days to complete an aqueduct, we have the following needs:

  • 11 Raeli Ovens - 1 of each specific color, 6 of any color.
  • 500 Treated boards/day - 1 batch/day.
  • 3 Marble/day - 1 quarry emptied every 5 days.
  • 6,390 Bricks/day - 22 Brick Machine runs/day, 22 Greenhouse harvests/day.
  • 346 Concrete/day - 1-2 batch/day.
  • 6-person dig every 4 days with all Cuttable Stone going to project.
  • 5.7 Pipe Segments/day.
  • 4 Cistern every 5 days.
  • Full Small Warehouse every 5-6 days.

Raeli ovens and brick machines do not need ongoing effort to sustain output. Once the infrastructure is in place, the bottlenecks will be the concrete, cut stone, marble and possibly treated boards.

    • Note: Thanks to AKC2 and GoT3 marble and boards are moving along quickly. The brick machines are not getting filled very frequently but extra capacity near S Thought and U Arch may help with this. Digs and stirs for stone and cement remain a problem.

Buildings and Resources

Aqueduct Pump

Item Quantity Notes
Steel Wire
600/600
DONE
Copper Wire
600/600
DONE
Moon Steel
120/120
DONE
Reports indicate this needs to be moonsteel sheeting - Mystivia did
Cistern
1/1
DONE
White Raeli Tiles
50000/50000
DONE
Greenish Raeli Tiles
30000/30000
DONE
Yellowish Raeli Tiles
30000/30000
DONE
Pinkish Raeli Tiles
30000/30000
DONE
Black Raeli Tiles
50000/50000
DONE
Any color of Raeli Tiles
100000/100000
DONE
Rotproof, Rigid, Nontoxic Boards
50000/50000
DONE
GOT3 guild working on it DONE
Concrete
10000/10000
DONE
115 more stones to smash for gravel if we are optimistic - I have about 2.5k gravel, just need to get cement made
Oyster Shell Marble
100/100
DONE
akc2 and GOT3 guild working on it DONE
Night Granite
100/100
DONE
akc2 and GOT3 guild working on it DONE
Grey Star Marble
100/100
DONE
akc2 and GOT3 guild working on it DONE

Aqueduct Towers

Item Quantity Notes
Pipe Segments
418/567


These need 100 Clay to make a Wet Pipe Segment on a Pottery Deck then fired in a Vault Kiln for 4 hours.
Cistern
37/82


1/tower - 350 Clay to make a Cistern on a Pottery Deck then fired in a Vault Kiln for 2 hours.
Copper Pipe
92/410


5/tower
Bricks
132089/639,000


Kept in Brick Machines until needed. Count is 108690 at pump site, 23399 at Shukura's
White Raeli tiles
0/8200
NONE
100/tower
Black Raeli tiles
0/16400
NONE
200/tower
Yellowish Raeli tiles
0/4100
NONE
50/tower
Reddish Raeli tiles
10/4100


50/tower
Greenish Raeli tiles
0/4100
NONE
50/tower
Blueish Raeli tiles
4100/4100
DONE
50/tower DONE
Concrete
200/27,200
NONE
100/tower + 19,000 for raising costs of chain
Cut Stone
0/14,270
NONE

Infrastructure

Two sites are established along the route for creation and storage of the needed bricks, tiles, etc. The pump site holds the material needed for the pump and the initial, highest towers. The western site (-1305,2700) holds the material for the central towers. Also, sites at Voyna's and Ikuu's (-1559,2878) for the towers near their respective areas are included. Pump site will hold most of the materials needed.

Item Quantity Notes
Raeli Oven
15/11
DONE
See oven info on pages: Asylum, PsS,

PPW, ours and Mystivia's. Also have some others.

Small Warehouse
8/20


At Pumping Station Site, will want 2 at western site
Greenhouse
16/6
DONE
Currently 4 at Pumping Station Site, 2 at western site, 10 at Shinjaki's
Brick Machine
11/9
DONE
4 At Pumping Station Site, 1 upgraded at Voyna's, 2 near SArch and 2 at western site, 2 upgraded at Shinjaki's
Vault Kiln
3/3
DONE
2 at Voyna's
1 at Zotep's

Storage