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{{Sidebar Test
 
{{Sidebar Test
     |name = Principles of Thought
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    |name = Thought
 
     |discipline = Thought
 
     |discipline = Thought
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     |principles =
 
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* Dry [[Flax]]
 
* Dry [[Flax]]
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* Claim your rights as Initiate of Thought
 
* Claim your rights as Initiate of Thought
 
* All of the above, OR solve three recently recognized puzzles
 
* All of the above, OR solve three recently recognized puzzles
     |demo name = Arame
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     |demo name = Avanya
     |demo region = Sterope
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     |demo region = River Plains
     |demo date = 2010-08-12
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     |demo date = 08-DEC-2011
 
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'''Build an Empty Hand puzzle and have 7 people solve and rate it.'''
 
'''Build an Empty Hand puzzle and have 7 people solve and rate it.'''
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Requires at least 3 blocks to function.
 
Requires at least 3 blocks to function.
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http://i60.tinypic.com/34nnozb.png
  
 
== Each Block Added ==
 
== Each Block Added ==
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[[Image:Thought.jpg]]
 
[[Image:Thought.jpg]]
 
<br>
 
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''Note that some people will rate such a trivial puzzle poorly. If your aim is just to pass Principles, you should consider solving three recently recognized puzzles instead.''
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''Note that some people will rate such a trivial puzzle poorly. If your aim is just to pass Principles, you should consider solving three recently recognized puzzles instead. You can use the [[Test_Pass_History#Empty_Hand_.28Initiation_to_Thought.29|Test Pass History]] to help you find them.''
  
 
== Beginner’s Guide to Solving an Empty Hand Puzzle ==
 
== Beginner’s Guide to Solving an Empty Hand Puzzle ==
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=== Pitaboo's Beginner’s Guide to Solving an Empty Hand Puzzle ===
  
 
(I myself am still a beginner at Empty Hand puzzles, but I thought I'd try writing a clearer explanation of the rules.  If you see anything that needs changing, please feel free to edit.  -Pitaboo)
 
(I myself am still a beginner at Empty Hand puzzles, but I thought I'd try writing a clearer explanation of the rules.  If you see anything that needs changing, please feel free to edit.  -Pitaboo)
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Also see this [[Principles_of_Thought/Guide|Empty Hand Puzzle Solving Guide]].
 
Also see this [[Principles_of_Thought/Guide|Empty Hand Puzzle Solving Guide]].
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=== Zhukuram's Hints and Not So Helpful Tips to Solving an Empty Hand Puzzle ===
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These are really infuriating to solve.  First the directions on solving are pitiful and unless you have some "experience" you don't even know how or where to begin.  What follows is my own experience with these and some explainations about how I see what you have to do.  Nothing scientific and I will expand as I figure it out more.  YMMV [[User:Zhukuram|Zhukuram]] 21:32, 2 January 2012 (EST)
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1.  In the top box is a list of blocks with << and >> on either side.  the >> and << move the blocks left or right.  These are the blocks you want to get rid of to "win"
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2. Below the top box is a unside down V (or tree).  Each side shows an "exchange" you can make.  There are a maximum of 7 total exchanges.  Some exchanges may be used more than once. Some exchanges are not used (red herrings). Sometimes you will need to make 10 or 20 exchanges to win.
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3. The first exchange you want to find is the "winner" which is the one that shows blocks on one side (left) and no blocks on the other (right).
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4. You want to use the exchanges to flip the blocks on the top to match the "winning exchange".
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5. Active exchanges have a clicable 'swap' button.  Unusable exchanges are not clickable.  You move the top blocks with the << and >> arrows and find the active "swap button".  Different swap buttons will become active as you move and swap the blocks.
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6. Some puzzles have "blocks in the warehouse".  These are used for exchanges where there are more blocks on the right than the left.  So you might get 1 block "swap" for 2 blocks.  The extra block comes from the warehouse.  You can only make as many 1 for 2 exchanges as there are blocks in the warehouse. 
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7. When all the top blocks match the winning exchange(3) and you do the swap you win.  There is a new clickable area in the window for claiming your win and you can now judge the puzzle by clicking on the puzzle itself.
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[[Image:Empty_Hand_Puzzle_Parts.jpg|center|800px]]
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=== Findas tipps to notation ===
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You start with this Chart:
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[[Image:emptyhand_fin.png|center|800px]]
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than you note down your moves like X1Y1; X2Y2; X3Y3; ... XiYi
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so the move shown above is 35;
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So you start noting down your moves you will less likely do the same mistake twice.
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==Claim your Rights as Initiate of Thought==
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Once your puzzle has been judged at least 'good' by 7 people you must claim your rights. Do this by clicking on your puzzle and then "Claim Principles Advancement."
  
 
== Recognized Empty Hand Puzzles ==
 
== Recognized Empty Hand Puzzles ==
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<br>
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2012-05-20 Anastasya 1392 -1017<br>
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2012-05-20 Arame 908 4903 Midland Valley<br>
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2012-05-13 Ramessu<br>
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2012-05-13 Avanya<br>
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2012-01-30 Cyco: 1390 -1119 Seven Lakes<br>
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2012-01-30 Mebala: 1401 -1080 Seven Lakes<br>
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2012-01-22 Twitch: 1664 2676<br>
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2012-01-22 Feyth: -507 6709<br>
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2012-01-15 Sonea: 1391 -1024 Seven Lakes<br>
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2012-01-15 Dawdles: 863 6940<br>
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2012-01-09 Tunnen: 703, -974 Seven Lakes<br>
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2012-01-09 Kabasto: 1582, 2879 River Plains<br>
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2012-01-02 Jazkar: 1557, 2857 River Plains<br>
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2012-01-02 ECKce: 902, 6942 Old Egypt<br>
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2011-12-26 Solaris: 1290, 3557<br>
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2011-12-26 Isaiah: 932, 4879 Midland Valley <br>
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2011-12-18 Ramessu: 1061, -5577 South Egypt<br>
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2011-12-18 Xspell: 1098, 6774 Old Egypt<br>
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2011-12-11 Qazedsaw: 1570, 2842 River Plains<Br>
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2011-12-11 Rahu: 908, 4905 Midland Valley<br>
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<!-- datapoints go here -->
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(X) 1392, -1017, 2012-05-20 Anastasya: 1392, -1017
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(X) 908, 4903, 2012-05-20 Arame: 908, 4903
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(plus) -318, 6749, Cat's Claw Ridge Chariot Stop (-318, 6749)
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(plus) 4286, -774, Cradle of the Sun Chariot Stop (4286, -774)
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(plus) 1924, 6681, Desert of Nomads Chariot Stop (1924, 6681)
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(plus) -1018, 2164, Desert of Shades Chariot Stop (-1018, 2164)
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(plus) 3805, -5625, Eastern Grounds Chariot Stop (3805, -5625)
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(plus) 60, 4392, Four Corners Chariot Stop (60, 4392)
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(plus) 4285, 7632, Lake of Reeds Chariot Stop (4285, 7632)
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(plus) 916, 4881, Midland Valley Chariot Stop (916, 4881)
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(plus) 1008, 6908, Old Egypt Chariot Stop (1008, 6908)
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(plus) 1582, 2854, River Plains Chariot Stop (1582, 2854)
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(plus) 1394, -1142, Seven Lakes Chariot Stop (1394, -1142)
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(plus) 3271, 4754, Sinai Chariot Stop (3271, 4754)
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(plus) 1052, -5593, South Egypt Chariot Stop (1052, -5593)
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(plus) -2235, 7123, Valley of Kings Chariot Stop (-2235, 7123)
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As puzzles are recognized in Sunday Passes, please add it to the following page.
 
As puzzles are recognized in Sunday Passes, please add it to the following page.
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For getting Principle by playing recently recognized EHP, the EHP must have won in the last 60 days!
 
For getting Principle by playing recently recognized EHP, the EHP must have won in the last 60 days!
  
[[Recognized Empty Hand Puzzles By Region/Bastet | Recognized Empty Hand Puzzles By Region]]
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[[Recognized Empty Hand Puzzles By Region]]
  
[[Recognized Puzzles/Bastet#Empty Hand Puzzles | Semi-automatic Recognized Puzzles list]]
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[[Recognized Puzzles/Amunet#Empty Hand Puzzles | Semi-automatic Recognized Puzzles list]] ''(Doesn't appear to be actively maintained)''
  
 
See also [[Test Pass History#Empty Hand (Initiation to Thought)|Test Pass History]] for full history including recent recognized puzzles.   
 
See also [[Test Pass History#Empty Hand (Initiation to Thought)|Test Pass History]] for full history including recent recognized puzzles.   
  
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== Demonstrate Principles of Thought ==
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To open the Principles of Thought you require:
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1000 Dried Flax
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1200 Thorns
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500 Boards
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300 Rope
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900 Cabbage Juice
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900 Dirt
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900 Carrot Juice
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900 Clay
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900 Limestone
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900 Grass

Latest revision as of 11:18, 21 October 2014

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  Principles of  
Thought
Discipline
Requirements
  • Level 2
Principles
Demonstration

Build an Empty Hand puzzle and have 7 people solve and rate it.


Once you pass the principle, you will gain a level and will also be able to sign up for the seven Tests of the Thought discipline (provided that you meet the level requirements).

Base Cost

Empty Hand Puzzle

Built in a Small Construction Site (4 Rope, 1 Canvas).

Requires at least 3 blocks to function.

34nnozb.png

Each Block Added

  • Note:
    • You will also need to add at least three blocks to the puzzle to make it work. WARNING after 8 blocks it started requiring a Gearbox! -Mystraca 1600 est Dec 19 2008

Total Materials for Puzzle with 3 Blocks

This is what you need to have to build the minimum empty puzzle with 3 blocks. Includes the materials for the Base Puzzle and for the 3 extra blocks. This also includes the 1 canvas and 4 ropes for Small Construction Site.

  • 20 Dried Flax
  • 25 Thorns
  • 101 Clay
  • 50 Boards
  • 81 Limestone
  • 21 Dirt
  • 34 Rope
  • 4 Canvas
  • 21 Cabbage Juice
  • 21 Carrot Juice
  • 21 Grass

Designing

Empty Hand set up dialogue

You have several areas to map. At the top left is your warehouse. This will hold extra blocks that could be used later in play. The top middle is your starting block(s). The open middle play-field is what transitions are allowed. Each section (boxes)>>(boxes) is a separate transition. The block color coding on the left can be turned into the color coding on the right.

Playing

The goal of playing an Empty Hand puzzle is to...well, empty your hand by removing all of the blocks. The game is composed of a system of rules which allow changing a particular pattern of blocks into other patterns of blocks. The ultimate goal is to play a rule that turns all of the blocks into 'nothing' by creating the pattern that allows the rule to be used.

For example, if the blocks are Red, Green, Blue and there is a rule to turn Green, Green, Blue into nothing, you would want to first play a rule that changes Red, Green into Green, Green. This would then create the appropriate condition to play the other rule, allowing you to win the puzzle.

This all becomes much more clear when you watch the animation of what's actually happening on the puzzle machine when you play the rules.

3 Block Puzzle with One Click Win

Thought.jpg
Note that some people will rate such a trivial puzzle poorly. If your aim is just to pass Principles, you should consider solving three recently recognized puzzles instead. You can use the Test Pass History to help you find them.

Beginner’s Guide to Solving an Empty Hand Puzzle

Pitaboo's Beginner’s Guide to Solving an Empty Hand Puzzle

(I myself am still a beginner at Empty Hand puzzles, but I thought I'd try writing a clearer explanation of the rules. If you see anything that needs changing, please feel free to edit. -Pitaboo)

Goal: to move the blocks (colored shapes) in the top row out of your hand by using the swap options shown in the swapping area.

Warehouse: The top line reads “Blocks in your Warehouse 0/0.” For the simple puzzles, this line may never change. In the more complicated puzzles, some swaps send blocks to your warehouse. You may use these blocks in later moves.

Hand: The next row is your hand. It consists of several blocks of different shapes and colors. These are the blocks you need to trade out, or empty, by using the given swap options in the large box below. To the left and right of the blocks are moving arrows. By clicking on these arrows, you can slide the blocks left or right to position your hand so you can match sections of your hand to the swap options below in the swap area.

Swap Area: This is the largest field on the play menu. It consists of several swapping options, arranged in a vaguely pyramid-type layout. Each option shows a set of blocks on the left of a Swap Button followed by a different set of blocks on the right. When you match part of your hand to the appropriate swap option (matching set of blocks to the left of the Swap Button) in the Swap Area, you may swap those blocks for the new option (new set of blocks to the right of the Swap Button). You will notice that by clicking the left and right arrow buttons in your hand, these swap options will either be brightly colored, indicating that they are possible swap options, or switch to a duller color, indicating that you cannot perform that swap.

Emptying Your Hand: At least one of the swap options should include an exchange that allows you to swap a set of blocks for no blocks. By repeatedly arranging your blocks so that you can use that swap, you will be able to empty your hand and claim a win.

Also see this Empty Hand Puzzle Solving Guide.


Zhukuram's Hints and Not So Helpful Tips to Solving an Empty Hand Puzzle

These are really infuriating to solve. First the directions on solving are pitiful and unless you have some "experience" you don't even know how or where to begin. What follows is my own experience with these and some explainations about how I see what you have to do. Nothing scientific and I will expand as I figure it out more. YMMV Zhukuram 21:32, 2 January 2012 (EST)

1. In the top box is a list of blocks with << and >> on either side. the >> and << move the blocks left or right. These are the blocks you want to get rid of to "win"

2. Below the top box is a unside down V (or tree). Each side shows an "exchange" you can make. There are a maximum of 7 total exchanges. Some exchanges may be used more than once. Some exchanges are not used (red herrings). Sometimes you will need to make 10 or 20 exchanges to win.

3. The first exchange you want to find is the "winner" which is the one that shows blocks on one side (left) and no blocks on the other (right).

4. You want to use the exchanges to flip the blocks on the top to match the "winning exchange".

5. Active exchanges have a clicable 'swap' button. Unusable exchanges are not clickable. You move the top blocks with the << and >> arrows and find the active "swap button". Different swap buttons will become active as you move and swap the blocks.

6. Some puzzles have "blocks in the warehouse". These are used for exchanges where there are more blocks on the right than the left. So you might get 1 block "swap" for 2 blocks. The extra block comes from the warehouse. You can only make as many 1 for 2 exchanges as there are blocks in the warehouse.

7. When all the top blocks match the winning exchange(3) and you do the swap you win. There is a new clickable area in the window for claiming your win and you can now judge the puzzle by clicking on the puzzle itself.


Empty Hand Puzzle Parts.jpg

Findas tipps to notation

You start with this Chart:

Emptyhand fin.png

than you note down your moves like X1Y1; X2Y2; X3Y3; ... XiYi

so the move shown above is 35;

So you start noting down your moves you will less likely do the same mistake twice.

Claim your Rights as Initiate of Thought

Once your puzzle has been judged at least 'good' by 7 people you must claim your rights. Do this by clicking on your puzzle and then "Claim Principles Advancement."

Recognized Empty Hand Puzzles


2012-05-20 Anastasya 1392 -1017
2012-05-20 Arame 908 4903 Midland Valley
2012-05-13 Ramessu
2012-05-13 Avanya
2012-01-30 Cyco: 1390 -1119 Seven Lakes
2012-01-30 Mebala: 1401 -1080 Seven Lakes
2012-01-22 Twitch: 1664 2676
2012-01-22 Feyth: -507 6709
2012-01-15 Sonea: 1391 -1024 Seven Lakes
2012-01-15 Dawdles: 863 6940
2012-01-09 Tunnen: 703, -974 Seven Lakes
2012-01-09 Kabasto: 1582, 2879 River Plains
2012-01-02 Jazkar: 1557, 2857 River Plains
2012-01-02 ECKce: 902, 6942 Old Egypt
2011-12-26 Solaris: 1290, 3557
2011-12-26 Isaiah: 932, 4879 Midland Valley
2011-12-18 Ramessu: 1061, -5577 South Egypt
2011-12-18 Xspell: 1098, 6774 Old Egypt
2011-12-11 Qazedsaw: 1570, 2842 River Plains
2011-12-11 Rahu: 908, 4905 Midland Valley


This map uses the CondMap template, if this map imports data from other maps please edit those. Please see Maps for further details and links to all raw data pages

As puzzles are recognized in Sunday Passes, please add it to the following page.

For getting Principle by playing recently recognized EHP, the EHP must have won in the last 60 days!

Recognized Empty Hand Puzzles By Region

Semi-automatic Recognized Puzzles list (Doesn't appear to be actively maintained)

See also Test Pass History for full history including recent recognized puzzles.

Demonstrate Principles of Thought

To open the Principles of Thought you require: 1000 Dried Flax 1200 Thorns 500 Boards 300 Rope 900 Cabbage Juice 900 Dirt 900 Carrot Juice 900 Clay 900 Limestone 900 Grass